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  • #73710
    Anonymous
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    Q: How can I prevent my dog from developing cystine bladder stones in the future?

    A: Dogs that have developed cystine bladder stones in the past will often be fed a therapeutic diet for life. Diets that promote alkaline urine that is more dilute are recommended. Most dogs should be fed a canned or wet diet to encourage water consumption. Dilute urine with a low urine specific gravity (USpG less than 1.020) is an important part of the prevention of calcium oxalate bladder stones. In certain cases, medications such as n-(mercaptoropionyl)-glycine (2-MPG) (ThiolaTM) may be required. Urinary alkalinizers may be needed to maintain an alkaline urine ph of greater than 7.5.

    In addition, careful routine monitoring of the urine to detect any signs of bacterial infection is also recommended. Bladder x-rays and urinalysis will typically be performed one month after treatment and then every three to six months for life. Dogs displaying any clinical signs such as frequent urinations, urinating in unusual places, painful urination or the presence of blood in the urine should be evaluated immediately. Unfortunately, cystine stones have a high rate of recurrence, despite careful attention to diet and lifestyle.

    Above is an excerpt from http://www.michigananimalhospital.com/page/452281614

    It sounds more complicated than it is, increase water, frequent bathroom breaks, make sure dog is urinating normal flow and amount and not having difficulty.

    Otherwise, find the appropriate diet (veterinarian/nutritionist approved), continue healthy lifestyle, walks, play.

    Follow veterinarian’s recommendation for testing, medication, supplements.

    Give us an update, hope all goes smoothly.

    #73657
    crazy4cats
    Participant

    LM-
    I agree that the calcium oxalate stones are more concerning than struvite in either dogs or cats as they cannot be dissolved. They have to be either flushed out or surgically removed. I am just pointing out, just like the link that you posted from Entirely Pets, that potassium citrate is ONLY for the treatment of oxalate stones, not struvite. It increases the pH in both dogs and cats, not lowers it. It would be detrimental to a dog or cat with struvite stones. The poster stated that his dog had struvite stones, not calcium oxalate. In fact, the topic of this thread is bladder STRUVITE stones.

    #73646
    crazy4cats
    Participant

    I agree with everything you have said. One should seek and follow the advice of a vet in this situation. But I stand by the fact that potassium citrate makes the urine less acidic and is used to reduce the risk of calcium oxalate stones. This poster specifically stated that their dog had struvite stones and made no mention of an infection. In this case, potassium citrate would not be recommended. Typically, in the case is struvite stones or crystals, the urine needs to be more acidic, not less.
    Sounds like in your situation, it is beneficial and I am very glad that your dog is doing well with its diet.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 9 months ago by crazy4cats.
    #73642
    Anonymous
    Member

    http://www.entirelypets.com/k-plus-potassium-citrate-plus-cranberry-300-tabs.html?cmp=nextag&mr:referralID=2b34b4bd-6c95-11e2-b779-001b2166c62d

    All I know is that it appears to be working for my dog, he had both struvite and calcium oxalate stones. He has not had a recurrence since his surgery (2011) he turns 15 next month. I listened to the advice of a veterinarian.

    DL-Methionine is a prescription medication that I am not familiar with, my vet told me to try the potassium citrate supplements first. After testing a few times his ph lowered nicely. I still think increased water is the key.

    For dogs, calcium oxalate stones are more concerning than struvite, often the struvite clears up when the infection (antibiotics) is eliminated and increased water is added to the diet.

    The treatment for cats is different than for dogs, that’s why it is important to work with a veterinarian regarding treatment choices. Not a DIY

    Articles are not always correct, neither is information shared on the internet, I take it all with a grain of salt.

    #70539
    Wendy J
    Member

    Can you please help me find the top foods for my dog with allergies and oxalate crystals?
    Thanks Wendy Jones

    #70256

    In reply to: amonium urate

    Anonymous
    Member

    My dog had struvite and calcium oxalate stones. The only tip I have for you is add water to his food, take him out for frequent bathroom breaks, keep the bladder flushed.
    Check Wysong, they have a good selection, plus a prescription food. Not cheap, but good quality. Ask your vet if it’s an option: http://www.wysong.net/veterinarian/
    Wysong Rx Urinary™ (kidney, urinary health, and struvite)
    (Replaces: Nephreon™, Uratrar™, and Struvatrol™)

    Ask your vet about potassium citrate tablets?

    #69987
    Anonymous
    Member

    /forums/topic/calcium-oxalate-crystals-help/

    /forums/topic/struvite-crystals/

    Two threads you may find helpful.

    #69985
    cms60
    Participant

    I used Dog Food Advisor years ago when my sweet Betty was first diagnosed with allergies. Wish your site was active then! I’m going to have to try something new now, so I’m glad to have it! The only allergy Betty has that isn’t listed is peanuts, but they don’t seem to be in any of the foods she can have otherwise since you kindly listed the ingredients.

    Here is my problem: She is now a little older and the vet says she has an alarmingly high Calcium Oxalate concentration in her urine. They recommend the prescription dog foods, but the only ones she can have with her allergies are the wet ones, and I’m not a fan of the all wet diet. My dogs have always had great teeth, and I can’t discount the fact that I make them crunch some of their food. I add anything wet immediately before they eat.

    Her allergies are: alfalfa, barley, carrots, peas, rice, soy, sunflower, and peanuts. My personal research indicates she could benefit from a diet higher in protein, sodium, potassium, calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, and moisture and contents with decreased urine acidifying potential. The dry food has a greater potential for problem than wet (no moisture). In contrast, there is some evidence that diets higher in fats and lower in protein and potassium are likely to increase urine acidity and cause the Ca Oxalate to precipitate out.

    Do you have any suggestions about this since you seem to have thoroughly studied the ingredients? I have been feeding Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream formulation for years. Currently, I am adding a lot of water to it to increase water intake.

    Thanks!
    Carolyn S.

    #69930
    Phil L
    Member

    I have an eight-year old Welsh Terrier that has a history of both pancreatitis and calcium oxalate bladder stones. He’s been on several Science Diet Prescription Dog foods, like W/D Dry and I/D Low Fat Canned, and neither have prevented either the stones or the pancreatitis. Most experts say the food treatment for one condition is diametrically opposed to the food treatment for the other. One post I read suggested mixing Evangers Chicken and Rice Canned with Wellness Core Low Fat Dry. Evangers food is not the Editors’ Choice List, but Wellness Core Reduced Fat is. Does anyone have a suggestion to replace the Evangers, or does anyone have a completely different suggestion for a food or foods that would be okay for both conditions? Thanks in advance!

    #69822

    In reply to: Struvite Crystals

    Anonymous
    Member

    If he has struvite crystals in his urine, even though they have not formed stones, they are as sharp as glass and can irritate and inflame the bladder. Struvite is usually caused by infection, hence the antibiotic treatment.
    Read through the posts in this thread and see what applies to your situation.

    If you are not happy with the way things are going with the traditional veterinarians, consider consulting a homeopath…. http://theavh.org/

    Distance is not an issue, many of them do phone consults.

    PS: I would not stop any antibiotic treatment that has been started without talking to the prescribing veterinarian first.
    Maybe he can explain the different opinions, and his rationale for treatment. Ask him for a diagnosis. Struvite or calcium oxalate? Ask him if there is a genetic component.
    Another option, if you want to stay with the traditional veterinarians, ask for a referral to a specialist…

    #69605
    Anonymous
    Member

    http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_canine_struvite_bladder_stones.html

    “Struvite stones form in urine with a high pH (alkaline urine), diets should help to maintain a low pH (acidic urine). Diets with animal-based protein sources are most important in maintaining an acidic pH, while
    vegetarian or cereal-based diets are more likely to cause and alkaline urine”.

    “With Calcium Oxalate stones, a high protein diet can cause stones by increasing calcium in the urine. It lowers urinary pH and can increase uric acid. High quantities of animal protein can contribute to stone formation by increasing urinary calcium and oxalic acid excreting and by decreasing urinary citric acid excretion”.

    “You should increase your dog’s water consumption to help dilute the urine. You can do this by adding water to your dog’s food, it should look like wet mush. Avoid table scraps when caring for an oxalate stone-forming dog”.

    “Depending on the kind of stone, you either want more, or less protein, and lower in fat (3 -8%). Be sure to check with your veterinarian before changing your dog’s diet”.

    #69604
    Anonymous
    Member

    Did you see this thread? /forums/topic/struvite-crystals/page/6/#post-69601

    My dog had both type of stones, actually the calcium oxalate type are more concerning.
    I saw the show and bought the t-shirt, so to speak, lol

    PS: Does your dog have struvite or calcium oxalate? Or both? It makes a difference, regarding your diet choices for him.

    #69603
    Justin F
    Member

    We recently took our 5 year old boxer/collie mix to the vet for a screening and they noticed his urine had a ph of 5.5 and that there was some crystals. The x-ray showed no sign of any stones and so we are just trying to prevent and manage his ph and gravity.

    The vet wants us to use Prescription Diet U/D food which seems horrible its pretty much just brewers rice and other by-products.

    Instead I’m hoping to find a food that doesn’t have Vitamin C and D supplements and also supplement with potassium citrate. Maybe add some wet food to for more moisture.

    Has anybody else tried doing this before or any thoughts?

    Google “Minnesota urolith center calcium oxalate” and they have some good info.

    #68560

    In reply to: Struvite Crystals

    Anonymous
    Member

    I mentioned in 2 previous posts in this thread what has helped my dog, he has not had a recurrence in in 4 years and is 14 years old. He had a uti, was treated and then ultrasound revealed both type of stones, he required emergency surgery.

    Your dog seems kind of young for this problem. Ask the vet if she is at risk due to her breed? Was she spayed recently? Is this a complication of that surgery? The UTIs, vaginitis? Is she going into heat?
    Ask if potassium citrate/cranberry tablets would help?

    Increased water, add it to the food is a must, my dog laps it up to get to the food (4 small meals per day). Frequent bathroom breaks, keep things flowing.
    Ask the vet if she has struvite or calcium oxalate stones? Or both? An ultrasound is a good idea.
    http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_canine_struvite_bladder_stones.html

    “Struvite stones form in urine with a high pH (alkaline urine), diets should help to maintain a low pH (acidic urine). Diets with animal-based protein sources are most important in maintaining an acidic pH, while
    vegetarian or cereal-based diets are more likely to cause and alkaline urine”.

    “With Calcium Oxalate stones, a high protein diet can cause stones by increasing calcium in the urine. It lowers urinary pH and can increase uric acid. High quantities of animal protein can contribute to stone formation by increasing urinary calcium and oxalic acid excreting and by decreasing urinary citric acid excretion”.

    “Your should increase your dog’s water consumption to help dilute the urine. You can do this by adding water to your dog’s food, it should look like wet mush. Avoid table scraps when caring for an oxalate stone-forming dog”.

    “Depending on the kind of stone, you either want more, or less protein, and lower in fat (3 -8%). Be sure to check with your veterinarian before changing your dog’s diet”.

    PS: Vaccinations should only be given to healthy dogs.
    http://vitalanimal.com/vaccinations-consider-carefully/

    • This reply was modified 9 years ago by Anonymous.
    #65741
    crazy4cats
    Participant

    Hi Corey-

    I’m sorry to hear of your dog’s troubles with stones. While I have no oxalate stones experience, I do with the struvites. But, I have read about the oxalate a bit when doing reserch on the struvite crystals due to my cat’s blockage.

    I have learned with any type of crystals or stones, it is best to get the most moisture in their diet as possible. And they also need plenty of opportunities to pee. I would try to feed as much canned or raw food to your pup as possible. Some vet therapeutic diets actually add salt to encourage the dogs to drink more water to dilute their urine as much as possible. Another thing that has been mentioned with trying to keep the pH levels stable is that it is best to feed a few smaller meals throughout the day rather than one or two large meals. Also minimize the amount of calcium being fed to your dog.

    At least the struvites can be dissolved with some types of vet foods, but the other types of stones and crystals cannot. So it is best to prevent them to begin with. Here is a site that has some decent information on it. Good luck! http://www.2ndchance.info/oxalatedog.htm

    #65726
    Mary S
    Member

    I do not know about stone formation – you may want to check Dr. Karen Becker’s web site, part of Dr. Mercola’s web site. http://www.mercola.com Type in those key words, e.g., struvite crystals, calcium oxalate stones, oxalate, oxalate stones, something may come up.

    You are correct with the low protein levels. That is what I am looking for too. My vet has asked me to reduce the protein level 30/70. I need to supplement something other than potato. My dog has a severe allergy to it. I believe my next choice to cut the protein will be pumpkin or sweet potato. (Presently, I’m feeding Purina’s Beyond, Grain Free, Wild Caught Tuna and Egg Recipe. Right now it is the only thing she can eat that doesn’t cause a major skin out break. The protein is too high which causes her to wet the bet constantly. Yes, she has been on Blue Buffalo and etc. with no luck or the protein is too high.)

    Good luck with your quest.

    #65695
    Corey K
    Member

    I’m looking to see if anyone has ever had any experience with a dog with severe urinary issues. My dog is 4 years old and has had issues with crystals in his urine and utis. His crystals have been struvite and urates. For the urates it was recommended that he eat the prescription UD. In Dec however he got blocked and had to have surgery. The craziest part of this is that he had 8 stones removed and we were sure they would be urate stones but they were 100% calcium oxalate stones. He needs low protein for the urates but should not have soy or oats or brown rice etc for the Calc oxalate so I’m at a complete loss as to what to feed him!

    #45226
    Christina E
    Member

    I have a 7 year old female miniature schnauzer who recently had bladder stone removal surgery. The stone analysis showed that they were composed 100% of calcium oxalate. The vet, of course, recommended that she be put on a “prescription” diet, but I think that food is just awful! Plus, there is no guarantee that even eating that food will prevent the stones from coming back 100%, so why have her eat it? I am looking for a high protein, low carb dog food. I know that most kibble is high in carbohydrates so I want to stay away from that. I am looking for a good canned food (low oxalate) or frozen/freeze dried food commercially available. A lot of the foods seem to have sweet potatoes, which are a high oxalate food, along with carrots. Besides home cooking, which I really don’t want to do since I’m not good in the kitchen, I want to make sure she gets feed a biologically complete food. Thanks!

    #41874
    Barbara B
    Member

    I notice that on the list of dog foods all the Hills Prescription and Science diets are included except for u/d, which is what my pug-a-poo has been on for nearly 3 years, since she is has had several bouts with bladder stones and has had 2 surgeries for Calcium Oxalate stones. I just wonder why u/d is not on your list.

    #40090
    Caroline M
    Member

    I have been home cooking for my dogs for a little over a year now and they are doing wonderfully on it. It is as economical as buying a good quality kibble if you look for sales. They have beautiful coats, are healthy, and the chronic itching one of my dogs used to have has now completely disappeared. I follow Dr. Pritcairn’s recipes and recipes on dogaware.com, and have been adding my own calcium in the form of ground eggshells.

    However, one of my dogs had calcium oxalate in her urine at her annual check-up. Not crystals, just the presence of calcium oxalate. She has no symptoms. I am now worried that the ratio of calcium/phosphorus may be contributing and ordered a supplement from Just Food for Dogs to add that is designed for people who home cook. It was recommended in a recent issue of The Whole Dog Journal. But…the company does not supply information on the ratios of calcium and phosphorus, and there is not even an ingredient list. It just says it’s proprietary. That worries me and I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this company? They are not reviewed on Dogfoodadvisor.

    #24416
    GaitedGurl
    Participant

    Found this information on one of the sites provided above. Thought I would post for anyone else looking.

    Dogs with Cushing’s disease should be fed a high-protein diet. Protein can help prevent muscle wasting. High quality proteins are also good for the skin and immune system. Also, since dogs with canine Cushings disease are prone to develop hyperlipidemia (high cholesterol and triglycerides) and pancreatitis, the amount of fat in the diet has to be moderately low.

    Finally, dogs with this disease are susceptible to the formation of calcium oxalate bladder stones. Therefore, avoid giving them too much calcium and vitamin C. Also make sure that they have plenty of water intake to avoid stone formation. – See more at: http://www.natural-dog-health-remedies.com/canine-cushings-disease.html#sthash.9TDdaP2J.dpuf

    Also said these herbal drops may help also… http://www.nativeremedies.com/petalive/products/cushex-cushings-disease-remedy-for-dogs.html?cj=3036157#ysmtac=cj&ysmchn=affiliate&ysmcpn=cj&ysmgrp=3036157

    #24280
    sparkles1962
    Participant

    I have a Jack Russell that I have had the same issues as the Mini-Pin. Had bladder issues years ago, and vet put her on urninary so. For years was throwing up on the food, not an issue for the vet. Then last year started with the pancreatitis. We have been working with a holistic vet, acupuncture, and herbal/homeopathic remedies. Amazing results. But, still working on it. I am now making her dog food. That really helps. I used Darwins raw food/chicken and duck. The only issue I had with that is the small bones, she was throwing those up and it was too costly.

    My dog has a duality of chronic inflammatory pancreatitis that is creating damp phlegm in her kidneys and hence bladder stone issues. This is what the holistic vet is working on. It surprises me, that the regular vets don’t even know this. However, I am looking for a good nutritionist vet, for making the appropriate raw diet myself. There is someone online, that you can pay for this service (but I’m a little leary to give my personal info online)! Here is the information I found online, if you are interested. She had some good things to say, such as me feeding a natural diet that included sweet potato is not good for my dog because—if the stones she is forming are calcium oxalate, you should not be feeding sweet potatoes due to their content of oxalic acid. It is also vitally important for kidney health to have sufficient calcium in the diet to 1. meet the dog’s needs and 2. bind excess phosphorus, and in typical, supplemented diets this is usually severely deficient.
    Looking online at dog diets with pancreatitis….is overwhelming!!!
    — Sabine Contreras
    Canine Care & Nutrition Consultant
    Creating Healthy Lifestyles for Canines
    BetterDogCare.com – DogFoodProject.com

    #15223
    K6RBS
    Participant

    Our 6 year old pug has a history of struvite bladder stones and following surgery to remove them she spent a year on Canine C/D. She recently developed a UTI and while diagnosing that the vet found that she had stones again. He put her on antibiotics and Canine S/D (to try to dissolve the stones). When the lab tests came back they showed that the stones were actually calcium oxalate and therefore could not be dissolved. By then she was fully on the S/D food (which she loved). The following day she started vomiting, became lethargic and shows signs of severe distress.

    The diagnosis was pancreatitis, triggered by the high fat content of the S/D food.
    5 days (and many $$$$ later) she is slowly recovering and we need to find a food that is low in fat (< 10%) yet unlikely to add to the calcium oxalate stone problem.

    Ideas are welcome.

    Thanks.

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