Whole Earth Farms Grain Free (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★☆

Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4 stars.

The Whole Earth Farms Grain Free product line includes six dry dog foods.

Each recipe below includes its related AAFCO nutrient profile when available on the product’s official webpage: Growth, Maintenance, All Life Stages, Supplemental or Unspecified.

  • Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Small Breed [A]
  • Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Healthy Weight Adult [A]
  • Whole Earth Farms Grain Free with Turkey and Duck# [A]
  • Whole Earth Farms Grain Free with Pork, Beef and Lamb [A]
  • Whole Earth Farms Grain Free with Salmon and Whitefish [A]
  • Whole Earth Farms Grain Free with Chicken and Turkey (4.5 stars) [A]

Whole Earth Farms Grain Free with Pork, Beef and Lamb was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Whole Earth Farms Grain Free with Pork, Beef and Lamb

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 29% | Fat = 15% | Carbs = 48%

Ingredients: Pork meal, dried potatoes, peas, sweet potatoes, pork fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), natural pork flavor, pork, beef, lamb, yeast culture, organic alfalfa meal, salt, salmon oil, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, vitamin A acetate, vitamin B12 supplement, d-calcium pantothenate, vitamin D3 supplement, niacin, riboflavin supplement, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, thiamin mononitrate), minerals (zinc sulfate, iron amino acid complex, zinc amino acid complex, manganese amino acid complex, copper amino acid complex, potassium iodide, cobalt amino acid complex, sodium selenite), dried blueberries, choline chloride, cinnamon, rosemary, sage, thyme, Yucca schidigera extract, dried Lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 3.9%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis26%13%NA
Dry Matter Basis29%15%48%
Calorie Weighted Basis26%31%43%
Protein = 26% | Fat = 31% | Carbs = 43%

The first ingredient in this dog food is pork meal. Pork meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh pork. Yet it can also be high in ash — about 25-30%.

However, the ash content of the final product is typically adjusted in the recipe to allow its mineral profile to meet AAFCO guidelines.

The second ingredient is dried potato, a dehydrated item usually made from the by-products of potato processing. In most cases, dried potato can contain about 10% dry matter protein which can affect our estimate of the total meat content of this recipe.

The third ingredient includes peas. Peas are a quality source of carbohydrates. And like all legumes, they’re rich in natural fiber.

However, peas contain about 25% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The fourth ingredient includes sweet potato. Sweet potatoes are a gluten-free source of complex carbohydrates in a dog food. They are naturally rich in dietary fiber and beta carotene.

The fifth ingredient is pork fat, a product from rendering pig meat.

Commonly known as lard, pork fat can add significant flavor to any dog food. And it can be high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life.

Although it may not sound very appetizing, pork fat (in moderate amounts) is actually an acceptable pet food ingredient.

After the natural flavor, we find pork. Although it’s a quality item, raw pork contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The next two items include beef and lamb, additional quality raw ingredients inclusive of water.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With four notable exceptions

First, although alfalfa meal is high in plant protein (about 18%) and fiber (25%), this hay-family item is more commonly associated with horse feeds.

Next, salmon oil is naturally rich in the prized EPA and DHA type of omega-3 fatty acids. These two high quality fats boast the highest bio-availability to dogs and humans.

Depending on its level of freshness and purity, salmon oil should be considered a commendable addition.

In addition, we note the inclusion of dried fermentation products in this recipe. Fermentation products are typically added to provide enzymes to aid the animal with digestion.

And lastly, this food contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Whole Earth Farms Grain Free looks like an above-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 29%, a fat level of 15% and estimated carbohydrates of about 48%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 29% and a mean fat level of 15%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 48% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 50%.

Near-average protein. Near-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the dried potato, peas and alfalfa meal, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Whole Earth Farms Grain Free is a plant-based dry dog food using a moderate amount of various named meat meals as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

Whole Earth Farms Dog Food
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Notes and Updates

09/23/2016 Last Update

  • kasey

    I’m told it was bought out by Purina and is no longer the same food. My Rotts have been very sick since and I can’t find a good food now.

  • Linda Woodward

    I didn’t notice a change in the food, but during the last bag of beef/pork, both of my huskys, at the same, lost interest in eating it. The male never turns down food, so something was not right with the food. Just bought a bag of the chicken/turkey, so will report back with any issues with it.

  • sharowna

    I’m curious to know if you live in Southern California.

  • sharowna

    We have the same problem!!!! Woke up this morning to a house full of diarrhea! Our dogs NEVER do that! What the heck? I noticed the kibble looked weird compared to the previous bags and we’ve been using it for 2 years.

  • Crazy4cats

    Ok, good choice. I hope it works out for your pups.

  • Diane Yerge Ware

    Thanks for the reply but I don’t buy that. We’ve been using this for two years and suddenly both are different at the same time and both causing both dogs issues? They changed it. We purchased Victor last night.

  • Crazy4cats makes an important point. Kibbles are inclined to present subtle color variations from batch to batch.

    This can be more evident in medium to lighter colored dry foods, like this brand. Darker kibbles, like Nature’s Variety, present very little color variance.

    One more thing. Like with human foods, in most cases, reactions to foods are only rarely due to defects in manufacturing. It’s far more common for GI disturbances to be related to a specific pet’s intolerance to a particular food.

    For example, it’s not unusual for high protein dog foods to be poorly tolerated by some dogs.

    So, you may need to switch to a food with slightly lower protein.

    Hope this helps.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Diane-
    I just finished up feeding the G/F Chicken/Turkey recipe and did not have any issues. The Pork, Beef and Lamb is up next. I hope there isn’t an issue with it either! I think it’s very normal for kibble to look a little different from batch to batch. It could be from natural variations in the raw materials. They may also use different kinds of potatoes at different times of the year. The only way to keep color consistent would be to use artificial dyes. A lot of pet food websites address this issue.

    That being said, something is definitely not agreeing with your dog if its causing diarrhea. I hope you can figure it out! Taste of the Wild, NutriSource, 4Health and Victor are also brands I’ve had good luck with. Hope this helps!

  • Diane Yerge Ware

    We use that one along with the pork/beef. The last shipment we got, one of each, both kibbles changes, it smells different and both dogs have loose stool/diarrhea. If you notice the change too, please write the FDA. I’m writing them as asked to do so by dog food adviser

  • Diane Yerge Ware

    For almost three years we’ve been using two flavors of this food with no problems. The last shipment we got, chicken/turkey & pork/beef … both kibbles are different. They’re now two-toned, smell funny and both dogs have diarrhea/loose stool. VERY disappointed

  • Eleanor Horres

    I use the turkey and chicken and it is an excellent food for my dachshundson. They are thriving from age 12 to 19.5 years

  • Bobby dog

    You’d be the one!!!! I have fed WEF canned before and would again, just haven’t fed the kibble.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi! I’m probably the poster that BDog mentioned earlier that regularly feeds WEF to my dogs. I have had great results with this food. I have mostly rotated between three of their grain free recipes. My dogs never had yeast or skin problems and still don’t while feeding this. They used to have some digestive issues, but seem to do well with potatoes. It’s also lower in fat and calories than a lot of foods, which helps keep my chubby labs weight down.

    I also occasionally feed the Healthy Weight/Senior Victor formula. It is low in fat while still being fairly high in protein.

    I always add a canned or fresh meal mixer in their kibble. Just make sure to feed less kibble if you add anything. Hope this is helpful!

  • Bobby dog

    PSP is one of the stores I shop at. I am sure you will be able to find something, they have a huge selection.
    When I look for lower fat/calorie foods I usually start out looking at senior formulas. They tend to be lower in fat and calories. However, most of the companies I feed not only have senior and weight management foods that fit my criteria, they also have several regular recipes that fit the bill such as Fromm does. Good luck and have fun shopping!

  • Shea

    Thanks so much for your advice! I’ve been researching everyday this past week for brands that would be great to try with less fat and calories. I have written your recommendations down and will be going next week to my Pet Supplies Plus store that just opened last month. Her food is starting to get low so I was getting anxious to find something that I think she would do great on. Yes, I’m going to see if the grain inclusive would be alright. I believe Sadie’s skin issues are environmental as well. I also thought she needed more protein for weight loss. I’m leaning toward Fromm Whitefish and Potato, Fromm Gold Senior, Solid Gold Fit and Fabulous, Whole Earth Farms Healthy Weight and Merrick Healthy Weight. Just going to see what they have available.

  • Bobby dog

    I have not fed WEF, but another regular poster feeds it regularly and her dogs do well on it.

    I don’t worry about the protein GA posted on bags, I want the food to be digestible. They can put any number on a bag, but if the food has a low digestible % it’s not worth the money. If a company doesn’t have info or cannot answer the question about their food’s digestibility it is not something I would buy. Here’s some more info:
    http://www.petmd.com/blogs/nutritionnuggets/jcoates/2012/nov/importance_of_digestibility_for_dogs-29432

    Edit, here’s another article:
    http://ccspca.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/6464370-the-importance-of-pet-food-digestion-and-palatability

    I also mix some canned in when I feed kibble which can up the protein in his meals. I keep canned food fat %’s around 15% or lower on a dry matter basis. Sometimes I even mix commercial raw, canned, and kibble together oh my!

    I feed GF and grain inclusive foods; he does well on any food. I initially bought into the GF fad when I first got Bobby because he developed skin issues when he was a year old. His issues turned out to be environmental not food related.
    Don’t forget to check out this site for info on skin conditions. I only wish I found it prior to jumping on the GF wagon and spending tons of money on food!
    http://www.healthyskin4dogs.com/blog/2015/9/8/facts-myths-about-yeast-dermatitis-in-dogs?rq=yeast

  • Shea

    I was looking at Solid Gold Sun Dancer because it was grain free and had the lower fat (14%) I could find. I have a $5 coupon I wanted to use that’s expiring soon so I was interested. I’m not sure my store carries the Fit and Fabulous but will check into it. Thanks!

  • Shea

    Thanks so much Bobby Dog! She loves Fromm but I was concerned with their lower fat foods having low protein. I was still wanting to try them and didn’t know how she would do on a grain inclusive formula.

  • Pitlove

    Im not sure. I havent used their canned food in a year+

  • Bobby dog

    I pick up their kibble for Bobby and my cats every now and then. I feed their canned cat food too, but last time I checked their recipes for canned dog food they were a little too high in fat for Bobby.

  • Pitlove

    I am a big Natural Balance fan. I considered Fat Dog for my Lab but I’d have to special order it and I didn’t feel like it. I’d definitely use it though.

  • Pitlove

    Yup

  • Bobby dog

    I feed their Fit & Fabulous canned, Bobby really goes nuts for it more so than his usual canned.

  • Bobby dog

    Hi Shea:
    I have a pup that tends to gain weight during hot weather and have to keep an eye on calories.

    I like to keep kibble GA fat %’s between 8-12%, fiber 3-5%, and calories between 300 – 350/cup. That’s the happy medium for my dog along with regular exercise. I am a little flexible with fat %’s and calories, but I don’t go beyond 5.5% fiber.

    I feed recipes from several different companies that fit my criteria. Some Fromm recipes my dog does well on are Whitefish & Potatoes, Reduced Activity & Senior Gold, and Classic Mature.
    I agree with pitlove, those treats add up and it’s best to cut them out until weight loss is achieved. You can always feed a few pieces of kibble for a treat. Just remember to subtract that amount from her meals if you go this route. Good luck!!

  • Bobby dog

    Grandma Mae’s?

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    Hi, Pitlove
    I was curious what you thought of this product? Only 250 calories per cup.
    My dogs are all in good shape right now, but if I had an overweight one I would consider this as a base.
    https://www.chewy.com/natural-balance-fat-dogs-chicken/dp/46804

  • Pitlove

    Oh sorry it means lowest calorie. I’m using a food called Country Naturals. They just came out with a new weight control one that is pork and thats the one that is 9% fat.

    Which Solid Gold formula are you looking at?

  • Shea

    That’s fantastic! I appreciate all your advice and will try to follow it! Quick question: not sure what lowest energy density food means and what food are you feeding with 9% fat? I’m also looking into Solid Gold for Sadie but seems pretty low in protein but is low fat.

  • Pitlove

    Controlling calories seems to be the key to weight loss. However, I am using a food that is 9% MAX fat. I would consider that appropriate for weight loss. Fromm at 17% (higher when converted to DMB) is borderlining high fat. We have a customer at my work that we special order Whole Earth Farms Healthy Weight for and she tells me her dogs have lost weight on it.

    My recommendation is to completely cut out the treats (low calorie ones or not), and get her on the lowest energy density food you can afford. If you are going to continue to use the Primal Freeze Dried food as a topper you will need to know exactly how much of her dry food to remove and replace with Primal so as to not add extra calories to the diet.

    Also as an aside, I literally just brought my Lab to get weighed at the vet and he’s lost 2lbs on this regime!

  • Shea

    Thanks Pitlove. That’s good to know. She’s only had one incident of a yeast problem a few months ago. She got a rash on her belly and she smelled really bad. Her skin was scabby and her underarms were itchy and smelly. I was giving her Merrick Chicken and Sweet Potato at the time and decided to change her to Acana. I don’t know if it was her food but after a few baths with antifungal shampoo it went away. She still has dry skin and a couple of scabs but no yeast problems. I’ve had her on Fromm Gamebird the last month and it has potatoes as the fifth ingredient. Anyway, I just want to lower her fat and calories and find a food that will help. Fromm has 17% fat in it. I do give her a couple of treats a day but they are low fat and calorie. I give Primal Freeze Dried Turkey and Sardine as a topper (1/2 nugget) and give her 1/6 cup of food in the morning with it. At night, I give her 1/3 cup of food with a 1/2 squirt of Ultra Oil for Pets to try to help her skin. She’s about 13 pounds and I would like to get her down to 10. I try to take her for occasional walks and she loves to run after her soccer ball in the backyard several times a day. Sadie also plays fetch with her toys inside alot. What fat percentage would you recommend for weight loss?

  • Pitlove

    Hi Shea-

    The potatoes in this food should be of no concern as long as your dog does not actually have an allergy to potatoes.

    Unlike certain people, including some popular holistic vets would have you believe, Malassezia yeast is not fed by carbohydrates. It is a fat loving yeast (not dietary fat) and overpopulation of natural yeast flora on the body is triggered by suppression of the immune system. Simply looking for a low carb food without understanding why your dog is having a secondary yeast infection will not get rid of the yeast infection.

  • Shea

    I might try this kibble out since it’s low calories and fat for my little terrier. I’m trying to keep her weight down. I’m a little concerned about potatoes being the second ingredient. I wanted to know if anyone else has had issues with it giving their dogs yeast problems. Also, seems a bit higher in carbs.

  • Jonathan

    I love wef. My dogs loved it I switch between them. Beef.duck and the others. I have to get the one for all breeds. Because my dogs are of different ages. But they love it.

  • Sukismom

    Stop spreading misinformation. If you did NOT transition your dog, then it was YOU and not the food that made him sick. Every bag of dog food you buy, regardless of brand, tells you to transition to the new food slowly. Don’t blame the food just because you didn’t bother to read the label and make the change correctly.

  • Sukismom

    That’s ridiculous. It’s actually good to rotate your dog’s food every few months. There is far less chance of developing an intolerance to a food when the dog doesn’t have to eat it 7 days a week, 365 days a year for years.

  • Michael Zweifel

    I fee my dog WEF for the same reasons I agree. Mine been on it for the last two years.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi-
    I frequently feed my dogs Whole Earth Farms. Currently, the Salmon formula. They do wonderful on it! So far, I have only fed the grain free varieties. I do rotate brands, but probably feed this brand the most lately. I like the fact that I can buy it at our feed store, Petco or online at chewy.com. I usually get it from who ever has a sale or coupon for it. It is lower in calories and fat than a lot of kibble, which is good for my neutered male labs that tend to get chubby. I also feed Victor, both with and without grain, Taste of the Wild and most recently Authority.

    Hope this helps!

  • Heather Lynn DeGruy

    Hi,
    I have a Siberian Husky who’s current diet is Blue Wilderness. However, it is driving me to the poor house!! Don’t get me wrong. I love my dog and will feed him and starve myself but I’m hoping to find a way to be able to afford to feed us both.
    Someone recommended WEF for us and I wanted to get some reviews from you guys. Ya know, people who have direct knowledge from using the food.
    First question-
    Has anyone switched from Blue to WEF?
    How is it compared to Blue?
    Does your dog seem to have any issues while being on it?
    What seem to be the pros?
    What are the cons?
    Any other information that anyone feels is pertinent?

    I’m sorry to be a burden. I really don’t want to switch his food and something bad happen to him.
    Thank you in advance for any and all help given.
    Bruce’s Mom

  • Samantha Smith Moore

    I’ve fed my lab the grain free WEF beef, lamb and pork for several years, he loved it. The last bag I got smells funky and the kibble is different, rough small texture instead of smooth. I put it in his bowl which normally he would walk right to and eat, he walks over to it, sniffs, turns his head and walks away. The food would sit there until he was hungry that he would eat it; then he would throw it back up. There is definitely something different and I haven’t fed him that for a week. I’ve been making him rice, meat, broth, carrots, peas trying to get him back to his playful, happy self.

  • Pitlove

    Hi Chaz-

    Purina made an investment in Merrick to allow them to grow. Merrick is still in control of manufacturing, formulation, quality control, etc. So yes, Merrick still owns Whole Earth Farms.

  • larissa cleaves

    Merrick owns whOle earth farms but purina owns merrick

  • theBCnut

    Because when it was bought, they left the company in tact, just new owner. In spite of Merrick’s problems, they still have a better reputation for quality than Purina.

  • Chaz

    Why does their website still day they are owned by Merrick?
    http://www.feedgoodness.com/whole-earth-farms-mission

  • Crazy4cats

    WEF’s Pork, Beef and Lamb formula is poultry free. My dogs do great on it!

  • Amateria

    I’m not the person you replied to I was simply answering your dairy question 🙂

  • Aubrey Walker

    Oh sorry I thought your dog was on WEF. Thanks for the info

  • Amateria

    I don’t know anything about the WEF but with the yogurt I add 1 teaspoon into Rusty’s plate from time to time to provide extra probiotics and some calcium, he loves it and he’s never had a problem with it, but some dogs do.

  • Aubrey Walker

    We usually mix the other dog food b/f switching but he stops eating his food so it seem if we wanted to stay with this brand it was the only way. I thought dogs couldn’t eat dairy? I guess it doesn’t messed up his stomach? What does the dairy do for him? Does WEF make a poultry free dog food?

  • Zchu TheKitty

    No i wanted to know how much meat made up the total food. I want a meat to plant ratio. This is on the front of each Marricks food bag, but not on Whole earth Farms food.

  • Pitlove

    Hi Zchu TheKitty-

    If all you wanted to know was how much of the protein in the food comes from animal meat, they did answer your question.

    From the last line of the first paragraph of the email: “Approximately 85 percent of the protein in our recipes comes from animal meats.”

    Hope this helps!

  • Zchu TheKitty

    I contacted this company to ask how much meat was actually in the food. They refused to answer.

    “Thank you for taking the time to email us today. Our basic nutritional approach is to provide an animal-sourced, protein-dense diet with lower carbohydrates and balanced fats. Approximately 85 percent of the protein in our recipes comes from animal meats.

    While we aren’t able to share the specific percentages with you as they are proprietary, what we can share is that all of our Whole Earth Farms recipes start with real deboned meat as the first ingredient, ensuring that the majority of protein in our recipe is sourced from animal protein.

    Thanks,
    Britney Essary,
    Pet Parent Relations, Merrick Pet Care, Inc.”

    Seeing as Marricks has it on the front of the bag how much meat is in each of their dog foods, I am not sure why Whole Earth Farm’s (which is also Merrick Pet Care Inc) would not share this information. My guess is they keep it a secret for a reason, the numbers must be low.

    I will not be purchasing from a company that refuses to tell me what my dog will actually be eating.

  • theBCnut

    You are failing to understand the basic principles of food rotation. If you understood, you would not have done this. We start slowly with full transitions. When our dogs are used to switching foods, we start transitioning faster and faster until our dogs can switch cold turkey WITH NO STOMACH UPSET. Rotating foods is not the reason for a torsion.

  • Amateria

    That would mean that us rotating foods is bad because we could die and that the many people here rotating for 30-50 years are doing it wrong, I’ll stick to what’s good for me and my dog.

    A lot of things can happen to us and our dogs there’s been plenty of deaths lately to both of us and most of it is from poisonous foods or treats to car crashes and drugs, it’s getting quiet crazy out there.

    You also mention you didn’t transition? So essentially it’s all your fault, would you eat an entire jar of live sauerkraut or kombucha having never tried it before? People have wound up on deaths door doing these things because their body wasn’t use to such a big change in good bacteria and what not, everything in this world can kill you, but to let my dog not be healthy because he may die from changing foods is absurd.

  • Crazy4cats

    I have been rotating brands and flavors for about three years without any issues. Whole Earth Farms is our favorite. I do like the fact that the pork recipe does not contain poultry to give them a break from it. But, I’m not too worried about chicken causing any ill effects at this time. Thank you for your concern.

  • larissa cleaves

    Yes Mary, thats what the problem is…

  • Mary Morin

    The chicken farmers changed their feed its full of antibiotics I believe deep down this is the cause.

  • Mary Morin

    Just avoid the poultry brand foods and your dogs will be fine.

  • Mary Morin

    PLEASE get him off the poultry they are now feeding chickens antibiotics that
    is effecting our pets and even causing death get the poultry free food
    no matter what and you will see the difference.

  • Mary Morin

    get him off the poultry they are now feeding chickens antibiotics that is effecting our pets and even causing death get the poultry free food no matter what and you will see the difference.

  • Mary Morin

    Merrick does not own the dog food anymore Purina does.

  • Mary Morin

    please stop rotating the food my dog Jasper died from doing that I had no idea it could hurt him please just stop my dogs eat the poultry free only of WEF and they are in great health just avoid chicken at all cost they eat antibiotics that effect your dogs health.

  • larissa cleaves

    Get educated? LMAO!!!! I am thank you. I used this feed for YEARS. You have used it for a few months. As you have only been using it a short time, you have NO IDEA what has changed.

  • Mary Morin

    Its the feed they feed the chicken that is causing this through the USA it is full of Antibiotics its effecting our pets now.

  • Mary Morin

    Good grief get educated just because its purina you think its something they are doing it has to do with the way the usa are now making chicken feed full of antibiotics that is causing this issue in dogs WEF I just started buying a few months ago has saved my dogs life so please spare me with the Purina is causing it no the chicken farms are causing this here in America.

  • larissa cleaves

    They have to use the same ingredients – they DONT have to get them from the same suppliers, nor use the same brand of ingredients.

  • Mary Morin

    Chickens are being fed antibiotics now and I would suggest switching to the poultry free brands in all brand dog foods.

  • Mary Morin

    Please do not say its okay. Its dangerous I have seen what rotating food can do in my own dogs and it happened everytime I switched food because I did not transition them over your playing a deadly game and my Jasper paid the price because I did not know and was misinformed by people like you saying its fine guess what his belly turned and he died.

  • Mary Morin

    its dangerous I have seen what rotating food can do in my own dogs and it happened everytime I switched food because I did not transition them over your playing a deadly game and my Jasper paid the price because I did not know and was misinformed by people like you saying its fine guess what his belly turned and he died.

  • Mary Morin

    Agreed its very unhealthy its down right dangerous a turned belly can be a death sentence.

  • Mary Morin

    My dog started eating the WEF a few months ago it saved his life he is allergic to poultry because the chickens are fed antibiotics which causes this issue in animals and kinda scares me also so we go organic. Try the WEF poultry free it saved my dogs life he had been eating himself to the point of bleeding then I started buying this a few months ago and he is now healed and no longer bites himself other than normal grooming and his coat is so shiny again.

  • Mary Morin

    Purina uses the same people that Merrick used if they change it they lose their contract and have to give it back to Merrick its part of the rules of sale. Its all in your heads because its Purina I was skeptical also because its Purina owned but its working he is healthier then he has been in years.

  • Mary Morin

    My dog eats it and the poultry free the other foods he ate broke him out with hot spots so bad he bled but this food saved his life I just started buying it so this surprises me to see and I just bought my second bag and he has never been happier.

  • Mary Morin

    E3 horse shampoo safe for dogs helps with skin problems also it has the same ingredients in it that the vet prescribes and vets shampoo is 40 and up for a small bottle and E3 is 12 for a really large bottle.

  • Mary Morin

    My dog can only eat the poultry free food or he itches its not good to switch their food even if its the same company it hurts their belly and can cause health risk I would feed him the poultry free since most dogs are allergic to chicken because of the antibiotics chickens are fed. Hope this helps. Also I put a dab of plain yogurt on top of their food.

  • Mary Morin

    People can say what they want about them but this food saved my dogs life as soon as he started eating this within a week his skin healed his frito smell left his coat shines and he has energy again. Thank You for saving my Dogs life I just bought my 2nd bag that takes my two small dogs a few months to eat and I will buy more again.

  • Krista

    Great, thanks!

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Krista-
    Here is a link to an opinion on digestive enzymes. This site has some interesting information, if you haven’t already discovered it.
    http://www.dogaware.com/articles/suppsdigestive.html#enzymes
    Hope this helps!

  • Krista

    Great, thanks! I just wanted to make sure. She seems to be doing fine without them so I will just not buy them. Thanks for your advice 🙂

  • Crazy4cats

    No, I don’t think you need to feed a digestive supplement unless it is needed for a short time due to GI disturbance. I think probiotics can be given regularly, but not necessarily needed. I do like the fruitables line though, if my dogs are having loose stools. Luckily, I haven’t had to buy it for a long time. If your dogs are doing fine without these supplements, they may just be a waste of money. Sounds like you are doing great. Best wishes!

  • Krista

    Hi, I constantly rotate brands and food forms (dehydrated, kibble, canned) to give my dog variety. Do you think I should be feeding a digestive supplement?

    I just ordered some probiotics because I figured that would be good for her. I currently have a few cans at home by fruitables that are a digestive supplement. Should I be feeding this regularly do you think?

    Thanks!

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    The pruritus may be related to environmental allergies and not the food. Hopefully, it is mild and only seasonal and responsive to treatment and recommendations made by your vet.
    However, if it continues, or becomes severe, I would consult a veterinary dermatologist for a diagnosis and treatment options.

  • Aubrey Walker

    My dog has been on WEF for 3 yrs and it’s been fine he also gets tired of the taste. So we’ve been through all the flavors but Salmon. He also itches but nothing with sores, I assumed it was allergies but now I’m wondering.
    I’ve looked at other dog food but they seem to have recalls except for WEF.
    Has anyone tried Wegmans dog food?

  • Crazy4cats

    Yes, that is true, they can source the ingredients elsewhere, just like all the other dog food companies can as well. I hope you can find something that works out!
    My two continue to do great on their kibble.

  • larissa cleaves

    I contacted them. THey said the recipe hasnt changed…but then gave me a free 25 bag of food. i did my own reserach and figured out that although the recipe didnt change, they can souurce the ingredients elsewhere…

  • larissa cleaves

    they were purchased by purina, and although the recipe is the same, the ingredients come from different places. totally gone downhill.

  • larissa cleaves

    they were purchased by purina. 🙁 it has gone downhill ever since.

  • larissa cleaves

    i was using it for years..,purina purchased them and it hasnt been the same since. Im getting ready to switch.

  • jennj99738

    One of my dogs has a chicken allergy. Well, he has a poultry allergy. No chicken, duck, turkey, nothing that has feathers. I know how hard it is to find food that doesn’t have chicken in it. Even foods labeled beef or bison often still have chicken.

    Is there a reason you don’t want to feed lamb? My dog does really well on the WEF Pork, Beef and Lamb formula. This formula is the one tested here on this page. You can see the ingredients above. I also rotate with Natural Balance LID formula sweet potato and fish when it is on sale. The dogs prefer this formula, though. Abound food sold by Kroger stores has a formula without grains or chicken. It’s about the same price as WEF.

  • Renea Candler Taylor

    We have been using WEF for months now. All of a sudden my dogs are itching to the point they are leaving horrible sores. My mother left her dog with us and forgot his food. I was feeding it our dogs food. Last night I noticed it had raw bleeding spots on it! Now I see they on here they sold out. I too noticed the different smell. Just ticks me off! I bought this food because we have one dog allergic to grain and one allergic to chicken. So they must be using both ingredients in the bags labeled grain free beef.

  • Lazaro Borges

    Today I went to Petco to return WEF healthy weight chicken formula. I had two bags and was looking for something different. I think my dog may have some sort of allergy to chicken. We’ve been feeding him anything chicken flavored for years. As of right now, I have a small bag of FROMM whitefish formula. He is going through the transition slowly from WEF to FROMM. As I was walking through the store, I could not believe how many brands of dog food had chicken in them. It made me sick literally. I’m looking for something of a different protein for him. No lamb and no chicken. Something budget friendly, but, good. Either 3 or 4 star rated. I thought of Orijen or Acana, but, they are high in fat and my dog is neutered, 7 years old and he goes out for walks 4 times a day an average of 20-40 minute walks. Any suggestions?
    I serious when I say sick of chicken as the main ingredient. I got very nauseated. No, I’m not coming down with anything. So any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

  • Marsha Maloney

    I have checked the ingredients on the WEF grain free chicken. The recipe hasn’t changed since they sold to Purina. I will be checking each time I need to reorder. I will not buy it if Purina changes it. If they were smart they would leave the Merrick foods alone. Their Purina brand gets 2 stars. It’s crap and I hope they are realizing that pet owners are much more savvy today in regards to really paying attention to ingredients. I mix the grain free WEF with the grain free Nutrosource grain free chicken and pea dry which is an excellent 4.5 star food.

  • Shawna

    How so?

  • IJ

    After research I found Purina bought Merick, is this food still good?

  • KcQ8ov

    Put the dental brushing on hold till he sees the vet.
    If he has an infection it may be painful, when you get the clearance from your vet to start dental brushing (after professional cleaning, extractions and a few days of healing), start slowly, rub the toothpaste on the teeth/gums and get in there with the brush. Did you check YouTube? They really have some helpful videos.
    Just use the YouTube search engine to look up dog or canine teeth brushing.
    PS: Another thought, is he drinking enough water? I would add at least a splash of water to his kibble, it helps rinse the teeth.

  • Casey Spivey

    I’m so glad you said a name of some because the peanut butter toothpaste I bought didn’t work. He wasn’t having it at all. He literally sniffed it, huffed at it, grabbed his ball and then went to his kennel. Which is his way of saying “nuh uh, no, we ain’t having this. Not today!”

  • KcQ8ov

    I’m on a tight budget, so not much variety in my diet. However I am doing quite well, I avoid sugar, dairy, meat, poultry. I am a pescatarian.

    My friends eat a variety of foods and are on a bunch of prescription drugs, they look like crap and complain of various ailments daily.
    So, again, consider genetics.
    PS: What dogs need nutritionally compared to what humans need are completely different things.

  • KcQ8ov

    You’re welcome. I like Petrodex 6.2oz tube, Chewy.com
    Get the dental done and your dog will be all set for a while.

  • Casey Spivey

    Hey you guys thanks so much for your comments. My dog, Coda, is a Belgian Malinois. I bought a toothbrush and peanut butter flavored toothpaste to see if it helps, he has a doctors appointment set up for this upcoming Wednesday. Yes he is more than my best friend, he’s my baby. So I’ll let you guys know what the doctor says! Thanks so much!

  • Pitlove

    I’m inclined to agree with the others. This wouldn’t be caused by a food. Most likely the teeth will need to come out, but I would get to a vet asap.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Casey-
    I have not had that problem with this food. I agree with the others, it’s probably time for a vet visit. Only a year old. That’s so young for this issue. Is he a small dog? I hope you get him all fixed up. It’s probably painful for him.

  • Crazy4dogs

    The food is probably not the issue. It’s very likely that he damaged the tooth in some manner. I would seek medical advice ASAP. If his breath is bad, there may be an infection. I’ve dealt with these problems before and a vet with a knowledgeable dental background is your best friend.

  • KcQ8ov

    Dog food doesn’t necessarily cause or prevent tooth decay. Even with daily brushing (see YouTube for how to videos) most dogs may need one or two professional cleanings and extractions per lifetime.
    Genetics play a role too. Some dogs, especially small breeds just have lousy teeth.
    If it were my dog I would get him to the vet asap for treatment.

  • Casey Spivey

    Does anyone know if this dog food is causing tooth decay? My dog is only a year old and he now has two teeth that I am afraid that are rotten. He’s been on this food since I got him a year ago but his breath suddenly is awful and his two front teeth, which one happens to be his K9 that is turning black.

  • Amateria

    This is where misinformation comes in and what I was talking about earlier this week, why would rotating foods be bad? Like why would anyone tell someone that(not saying they told you but some people were told) anyways like BC said how would you like to be stuck with the same food all your life? Not only that but imagine all the vitamins and minerals and oils your body would miss out on.

    Those oils help me out so much, that at this point I don’t see myself living without them, or intense back and hip pain when I walk, after adding seeds and avocado oil to my foods I am virtually pain free! What a difference it made!

    Rusty was just on chicken, rice and veggies before I started my researching of dog foods and he was just standard nothing special about him, he also lay around a lot and wasn’t as happy acting as he is now.
    I’ve added a fish kibble, fish treats, organs via Ziwipeak cans and dried and suddenly he’s a new man dog, like omg he changed so much, he almost never limps anymore, he flies around the house on a cloud of pure joy, he’s always happy now and what’s not to love right?

  • theBCnut

    The whole point of diet rotation is to keep adverse reactions from happening at all. The only type of adverse reaction that takes that long to appear is nutrient deficiency and if a diet is that nutrient deficient, why would you want to stick with it long enough to figure that out. Eating variety is no different in dogs than it is in humans. What food would you want to be one f the only two you would ever be allowed to eat?

  • theBCnut

    To start with, you just slowly transition to a different food at the end of each bag. After a few transitions, your dog will be able to tolerate faster and faster transitions until one day no transition is needed at all.

  • KcQ8ov

    Here is the problem, if your dog gets sick how will you know which kibble caused the problem?
    Sometimes it takes 3 weeks or so to see the effects of a diet change or an adverse reaction.
    I prefer to stay within one or two tried and true products.

  • Samantha

    How do u alternate your brand of foods? I thought this was very unhealthy?

  • ChiChi

    This food works amazingly well for my older Chihuahua who doesn’t do too well on very high protein foods, moderate amounts suit her much better.

    I’m getting a puppy (also a chihuahua) in a few weeks and I’m wondering if I could feed this to the pup? I’d love to have them on the same food and this food does say it’s for all life stages, but I’m not sure if 13% fat is enough for a toy breed puppy?

  • Suzi Norton Newman

    My Collie’s love this food. Their eating less and staying satisfied. This makes me very happy. Thank you

  • Crazy4cats

    Good news, glad to hear it! I saw Sportsmix at our brand new Tractor Supply Store. I’ll have to check it out. I hope things keep going well for you.

  • janice gross

    Hey crazy4cats. Thanks for your advice! I have got the new sportsmix dogfood,
    ( lamb and rice ), and all three of my dogs like it. My youngest Chihuahua ( papi ), ate the whole plate last night, so that was good. I poured the food into a bowl and cooked some chicken broth, and I let it sit and soften, and then I added salmon and a little tuna to it, because he was used to eating the freshpet rolled food before and it was soft, so I wanted the hard food to be soft also, otherwise, he won’t eat it. In the mornings, they don’t want to eat as much, but at night, they eat more. But, thanks again for your input, you’ve helped out a lot. Have a nice day OK.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Janice-
    I have fed the rolled Freshpet food that you are describing to my dogs as a topper before. I think it is a good product. You could still feed as a topper if they like it. I don’t think that a non grain free food will necessarily cause a dog to shed unless it is sensitive to them. Is the hair falling out in clumps and he has bald spots? It definitely is shedding season right now as the temperatures are warming up. I took my two lab mix dogs in yesterday to a groomer to get rid of all their dead hair. Here is a link to a download that may give you some ideas for meal mixers: http://www.dogwise.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=DN330EBK
    My dogs get canned food mixed in every morning. It’s just easiest at 4:30 am! For their afternoon meal, they get an egg and tripe, commercial raw or sardines. I feed the raw because it contains some organ meat, greens and some fruit. That way I don’t have to add those separately. But you sure can if you have the time and energy! Oh, and I add fish oil pill a few times per week also.
    Has the new food arrived yet?

  • janice gross

    Hi crazy4cats. Thanks! I was looking for canned food because my chihuahua normally eats the freshpet rolled refrigerated food, which you slice and its soft, but not grain free, so I thought that I could gradually transition him on the hard food and mix some broth, and maybe some other vegetables in there to give him more nutrition, and maybe his mother and father will eat it too, because they are all three on the same dogfood, but still waiting on the food to come. The sportsmix is lamb and rice, so what would you mix with it? Would you mix salmon or something like that with it? I need some idea of what would be nutritional for him, he is 2 1/2 years old. I seen where a lady on the disque mixed spinach, kale, and chicken in her food, but I’m wanting to get some good nutritional stuff for him, and the others also. Thank you so much, I’m new to this, I was online about 3 hours reading all of yalls comments about the right food to buy.

  • Crazy4cats

    Oh, you are welcome. I think you will be very pleased with Chewy’s service. I have never fed the Sportsmix. Please report back on how your dogs do on it. I thought you were looking for canned food. I hope your little guy will eat it. I think it’s a great nutritional boost to add some fresh ingredients to their kibble. Best of luck and come back if you need any help with meal mixers!

  • janice gross

    Hi crazy4cats. Thank you for your response. I actually bought a dry dogfood called sportsmix lamb and rice off of Chewy.com. I hadn’t received it yet, but I’m hoping that my dogs will like it if I put salmon or something like that in it.
    Thanks again for the help.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Janice-
    I rotate kibbles and toppers for my pets. I have fed both the canned and kibble 4Health foods to my dogs. It is a great budget friendly choice. I don’t have much experience with Blue Buffalo. It is out of my price range. But, from what I’ve researched, it seems like you can buy similar food at a more reasonable price. You asked about canned earlier. Are you only looking for advice on canned or wet food? I just use it as toppers as I have two very large dogs and would be too expensive to only feed canned. I feed either canned or fresh foods such as eggs, tripe, sardines and/or raw mixed in their kibble for every meal.

  • janice gross

    Thanks for answering my question. I was concerned after reading comments on here that people were not satisfied with Whole Earth Farms food. I only fed my 2 1/2 year old chihuahua 1 can of it so far. There were some on here that stated in the beginning, the WEF was good, and then their dog began having issues. So, I began to read about various dogfood online for about 2 hours last night, and there were good reviews about blue buffalo and 4health. What’s your opinion on these foods? Thank you so much for your help!

  • theBCnut

    When I have used Whole Earth Farms, I have been very satisfied, but from things I have read, I wonder if they don’t have a LOT of quality control issues. Try looking at Earthborn Holistic.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Janice-
    I HAVE been satisfied with Whole Earth Farms kibble. I haven’t fed their canned dog food much due to cost, but I do feed their canned to my cats with no issue. I also feed Victor kibble to my dogs. In fact, I should be getting a bag delivered today from Chewy.com. Victor does not make any canned food.
    I’m sorry, I don’t know much about allergies, but I understand that Freshpet is a very good choice. Obviously not, however, if your dog is not doing well on it. I hope you find something that works!

  • janice gross

    I see that a few of you aren’t satisfied with earth grain free whole foods, I just fed my chihuahua a can this evening, and its the chicken brand. So, where do you get ( Victor ), is this food good? I see so many foods that I don’t know what to buy, and my chihuahua has a lot of shedding, so I’m sure that its an allergic reaction to the other food that I’m giving him, it is freshpet, and its refrigerated, and all natural, but not grain free. Help!!!

  • Maggie L Levine

    OMGosh Me Tooo! My girl Timber had such bad breath (as my co worker said ….it smelled like road kill”! First rice and poached chicked to get her system back and then Blue Buffalo….sigh If anything happens to her….

  • Crazy4cats

    I still feed WEF with no problems. But, I also feed Nutrisource, Victor, Taste of the Wild and/or 4Health kibble. Maybe one of these brands could work for you as well. Good luck!

  • BrutusNBelle mom

    We have been feeding the turkey and duck for about 3 months. This last bag will be going back to the store! Neither my 8 yr old Pit or my 6 yr old Boston wants to eat it anymore. They used to gobble it down. They had stopped itching, and now itch to the point of hot spots on the pit. I noticed when I opened it that it looked and smelled different. Now I know why. A great company sold out to a sub-standard company Again!
    Dont know what to try next! Ughh!

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Ashley-

    Have you tried contacting Merrick with your questions?

    I have not fed the chicken recipe for a while, but they just finished a bag of the Pork flavor with no issue. I rotate this brand with Nutrisource, 4 Health, Victor and Taste of the Wild. Maybe one of those brands will work for you. Good luck!

  • ashley

    I feed my dogs the grain free chicken and turkey recipe from whole earth farms. Does anyone know if they reformulated this recipe? i just bought a new bag and the kibble looks and smells completely different. It use to have a fragrant turkey smell and was golden brown in color. The new bag I bought smells like generic kibble ( it has a “burnt” dog food smell ) and the color is very dark brown. I don’t know if I got a bad batch or if this is a new recipe, however if this is the new recipe I’m going to find new dog food.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Leah-
    My dogs do well on this food too. I’ve found that it is actually a somewhat budget friendly grain free kibble that does not have chicken in it! I hope you have continued success with your pup.

  • Leah

    We adopted our Plott Hound/Beagle mix dog 8 months ago. Right away, I noticed she scratched, chewed and licked at her skin terribly. She also had a lot of problems with her anal glands. After talking with a vet about her food, we decided to slowly transition her (once again) into not only at grain free, but a chicken free food. The gland problem disappeared completely! I think my girl has issues with grass or something outside, so we still see some scratching, but that has calmed down too. This dog food seems to have done the trick for us. We have not seen any negative effects from it! I hated having to try so many foods, but I’m so glad we kept trying and found one that works!!

  • Melissa McConnell

    This review makes me weak …. We had the same experience with our
    4 year old French bulldog Petunia . She started doing the same things you describe .. Vomiting that came and went ..off and on with being fine otherwise .. Thought it was odd that her stools were darker than usual but she was eating and acting herself so didn’t think too much about it. Then she got worse suddenly. Took her in but she always perked up for the vet so it was hard to tell just how sick she was. Blood work came back abnormal and we were in the process of trying to figure out what was going wrong and she just took a turn very quickly and we had no choice but to put her down. It was devistating.
    We didn’t even think of the food we were feeding her for the last few months but now I am sick … Our two terriers have starting developing the SAME symptoms. Vomiting , dark stools , bad breath .. We are taking them off of WEF right away. Thank you for your comment – I went on just to see if anything had been said about this food and can’t believe you have had the same exact experience.

  • Christine Manning

    Didn’t think it was due to the food until our puppy started having the same symptoms. Now it has got me wondering if the food is the cause and if it is then this company needs to be notified and the food pulled off the shelf. I have also noticed that when purchasing this food, the difference in the color. Dark color kibble, little color or white looking specks.

  • Christine Manning

    I am wanting to know if anyone who is feeling their dog WEF has had an problems with health issues in their dog (s)? We started feeding our 3 doxies and chiauaua the chicken and turkey dry food back around February or March of 2015. Well around June 2015 our oldest, he was 8, started vomiting. We took him to the vet and he had us try feeding him hamburger and rice for a while after x ray and blood work came back normal. So he seemed to be ok with that for a while. Then we started him slowly back on the dry food. The vomiting came and went off and on. So a few weeks went by and his health took a turn for the worse, suddenly. Vomiting was worse, stools were black and he started to get weak and dehydrated. A few more trips to the vet and nothing changed. Then in late August as he was vomiting, mind you his vomit was black, he feel over. Took him back to vet and his condition, whatever it was, most likely liver failure was so past the point of treatment. We had to put him to sleep:( Well in December we got another daschund puppy. Bought her WEF puppy food and as of a month and half ago she has all the same symptoms that our other dog had. Vomiting, foul odor coming from her mouth and darker stools. Not long after these symptoms started we took her to vet, blood work was abnormal for the test on her liver. Put her on hamburger and rice for 2 weeks and then started her on Natural Balance L.I.D which she has had no problems with. But still has the foul odor and is now not wanting to eat. Very concerned and we are thinking that the yucca extract in WEF may be the cause.

  • Lazaro Borges

    I’ve noticed also a change, but in the color of the kibble. The kibble is lighter in color. When I first started feeding me dog this food last year, the kibble was a darker brown, now it’s lighter in color if one could go by the color of kibble to suggest a change in ingredients. No upset stomach,gas, loose stools to report for now. Leave it to Purina to screw things up as always. I even bought another bag from Petco that I haven’t opened yet. Why would MERRICK sell there company to Purina or as I call them, CRAPINA? Big mistake, unless if they are planning on making some kind of a comeback with a new food and company. Either way, the entire situation sucks.

  • Kim

    I’m appalled that you would “stuff it into his mouth” when obviously the food made him sick, or he would eat it after starving himself for two days ~~ sometimes our dogs have more sense than the owners!!

  • S.C.

    I was very excited to see this food preview. The cost is great and No corn. However I’ve talked to several people and read some reviews of dogs who are getting upset stomachs from this brand. It’s too many comments to be a coincidence. I don’t know what’s causing the upset but I wish it would be addressed and fixed.

  • S.C.

    There is no “normal” for mixed breeds. Even purebreds have a wide weight variance. Ask your vet if he’s growing right, not overweight. You can also eyeball it by looking from above him. You should see a slight curve in the waist area – like a waistline.

  • Sam G

    Hi there i just started my 6 month old on WEF (he was on blue buffalo and HATED it and im talking he would put it in and spit it out..somedays i used to literally stuff it into his mouth cause he would go like 2 days without eating (i stopped treats hoping he would get hungry and eat but nope) anyway my Q is my shichon is 6 months and hes 14 pounds is that normal? he was kind of a rescue but i bought him…its really a long story anyway i know nothing about the parents..i just want to know if 14 pounds is normal..i thought shichon ( teddy bear dogs) are usually very small?

  • Lishaa67

    It’s the vegetables that make him gassy. Just like us, when we eat vegetables, we get pretty gassy as well.

  • theBCnut

    They have recently been bought out, so I would suspect that the formula is being changed or that the quality of the ingredients is being changed.

  • Che’ Carroll

    I’ve noticed the last 3 times I purchased whole earth farms grain free chicken and turkey that it looks drastically different every time. I am curious if this is normal? I feel like my dog is itching a lot recently and I am wondering if they did change something in the food.

  • Pitlove

    Let us know what the DNA test shows! Unfortunetly I’ve heard from some that have used it, that they aren’t always accurate. I wanted to test my pittie as well since he has more the look of the American Staffordshire Terrier, but we were told he was APBT. Thinking he’s a mix of both or something. I love him the same no matter though!

  • Crazy4cats

    Oh my gosh, is he ever cute!!! He looks healthy to me. My dogs rotate through the grain free flavors of WEF and do very well on it too! Thanks for sharing.

  • Christopher

    I had another photo of the dad but it got corrupted… I compared photos (head on) of the mother to the razers edge line – she definitely has spare bone structure… The dad, from the side appears like an American bulldog (scott) but head on more like an apbt, IMHO… This far I’ve been asked by vets & breeders a few times of he is a pure breed because he looks like one – i’m looking to get the DNA thing done in a few weeks I think… Just for curiosity… Here’s a few photos of my old American bulldog pure breed and his dad… First one – the dad on the right, son to the left…
    2nd one – dad
    3rd one son… My ex let him get fat not exercising him properly… If not for my kids I would’ve sued her to get my dog back – but it would’ve killed my kids… 🙁 http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ffeee89436331feaa2b7b05ed7ff407ab998747577a6cfb94e7110a1d16bb82a.jpg http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d2d7e1fbc04c61a3d00aa74a07656efbf2b758390bda4b75f357e5ab0274f94.jpg
    http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32c87302c5cef23a5246330cc89edd3ebbe2f6e1fd0d873a5adc7234e9f1d2c4.jpg http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a4cc940d43334bd1cb8e0a6a32ec581cb1680a3a64b9f2ce7d85162050bcd0a.jpg

  • Pitlove

    Is that mom and dad? Neither, especially not mom, look like American Bully at all. They probably got the bloodline wrong. Mom definitely looks APBT, more so than dad. Both beautiful dogs though!

  • theBCnut

    I don’t think it’s a problem, he looks too healthy for that, just something to watch for while they are puppies and growing fast.

  • Christopher
  • Christopher

    I’ve been dillegent about testing and giving him anti worm (Heartguard)… I’m certain that’s not the problem – i think he’s just a late bloomer… His last fecal test was like 45days ago

  • Pitlove

    Razors Edge is a bloodline found in XL American Bullies, so it sounds like he could be a mix of APBT and American Bully which will make him on the bigger side. Either way he looks like he is growing just how he should be for the breeds he is. And Whole Earth Farms Puppy formula is safe for large breed puppies as well, so you are definitely on the right track with him!

  • Christopher

    He’s pure pit – parents were bigger – the father was about 60lbs and taller – believe he is pure American PB standard – mother is in the mid 50s and was mostly razors edge but really solid … At 5mo I expected his growth to be more (bone and frame) than what he is but I think my expectations are skewed because my last dog was a pure breed American Bulldog (Scott)… At 5mo he was 35lbs- lean and taller

  • Pitlove

    Hi Christopher- If he is a true APBT, they can be on the small side. Some are only 35 lbs max weight. APBTs are very very muscular dogs with tight bodies. It’s essential they stay that way. I think your baby looks just fine! He is gorgeous!

  • theBCnut

    From your picture, he would be fat if he was 30 lbs. so don’t worry about weight. While he is still growing, keep him lean like an athlete, so he doesn’t develop problems from growing too fast. If you find he is still poop eating, try adding digestive enzymes to his food. It isn’t uncommon for Pitties to have digestion issues. Also, make sure he is checked for worms a couple more times in the next 6 months. The stresses of going through growth spurts and having nutrition issues can depress their immune system and make them more susceptible to worms and the intestinal damage that comes with them.

  • Christopher

    My American Pitbull is now 5mo old. He’s been on science diet since first coming off his mother’s milk – truth be told – he’s underweight, undersized and isn’t crazy about the science diet puppy food… He was never crazy to go eat… Even ran into issues with him eating his own poop (often seen as a sign of undernourishing undigested food). I just began transitioning him to WEF puppy formula – wow what a difference – he jumps for the bowl (he never did that before) he finishes it every time – funny – supposed to do that slow transition 25/75 50/50 75/25 100/0 over a week’s time – but 2 days in he picked out the science diet, puts it in the floor and just eats the WEF!
    Hoping for the best here – hope this stuff is aa good as it is suppose to be – he’s only at around 25lbs and should be over 30 already…

  • Amanda Galarneau

    They will not be changing any WEF or Merrick recipes for at least 3 years. When that time comes I am sure this site will do its due diligence and review these foods again for additions of cheap fillers. The Merrick brand still operates independently although owned by an evil dog food empire.

  • Crazy4cats

    Under Notes and Updates at the end of the review, it states the last update was 4/9/15. I rotate this brand with Victor and have not noticed any changes.

  • BeBe

    was this review written before or after the nestle/purina buyout of merrick foods?

  • theBCnut

    It’s about 48% carbs.

  • ky28

    Hi I have a 10yr old diabetic pug who weighs 26lbs. I am changing his food, so my 7yr old bulldog can eat the same food. Trixxie my bulldog, has a poultry allergy. it was getting very expensive buying 2 different types of food. I came across this food and they seem to love it. MY question is, Is this safe for my diabetic dog. I have to watch his sugar levels. Is the grain free beef and lamb good for his sugar ?

  • DogFoodie

    Has your puppy ever been seen by a vet? If not, you need to schedule an appointment right away.

  • Everardo

    I have a Husky almost 2 months old and the owner i bought him from told me he fed him pedegree puppy food i now know it is a low quality food he has no shots or has been dewormed any suggestions on what food i should buy him and where to get his shots ?

  • Renate Mnmnm

    I would seriously consider making the food yourself. It isn’t all that time consuming. Green beans (cooked fresh, canned or cooked frozen), cottage cheese,)low fat) and either canned mackerel or boiled chicken thighs (skin and bone removed). I also add a small amount of whey protein , a fish oil capsule,and olive oil. My very fat cat lost significant weight and had the shiniest coat ever, after two weeks on this diet. No chemicals, no additives, no unrecognizable junk.It really helped her painful joints, too.

  • Pitlove

    That could certainly be a good option. I’ve used the Bison GF recipe before. Didn’t have issues.

  • April Rusk

    I’m thinking of transitioning to Pure Balance. I looked at the reviews on this same website, and saw nothing but good comments. Any thoughts?

  • Pitlove

    My pitbull gets very bad gas if he eats beef. It’s usually a symptom of a food intolerance.

  • April Rusk

    I have a husky pitbull mix who will be 11wks tomorrow. The day I got him I started transitioning him to WEF Puppy recipie. He absolutely loved it and is always excited when he sees me filling up his bowl. (As all dogs usually are). Only thing I have to say is that he is very gasy! Don’t know if that is just a puppy-thing or if it’s from the food. I’ll be doing more research.

  • Crazy4cats

    The last time I checked, The Whole Earth Farms Puppy food was appropriate for a large breed pup. Here is a link with more information: http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/best-dog-foods/best-large-breed-puppy-food/

  • Fredy Palma

    I have a now 10wk old 10lb American Mastiff (I believe, we got him from the pound) and we decided to go with WEF because its what the petco associate recommend thats in our price range and healthy for out Hercules. I am unsure if it was the right choice since I don’t know much about this breed besides its high risk for hip dysplacia. We were doing 1/2c 2x’s a day but have up it to 1c 2x’s day and 1/2c 1x day. Is this ok or should I be feeding less but 3-4x’s a day? Thanks for any help you can give.

  • Crazy4cats

    You might want to go back to the Science Diet to get his tummy back to normal before switching to another new food since he did well on it. Then, slowly transition to the new food. Nutrisource, as Pitlove mentioned, might be a good one to try. My dogs do great on WEF, but they are all different. Good luck!

  • Pitlove

    I would suggest NutriSource. Its a great food for dogs who have any type of GI upset. I’m currently tranisitioning my 6 year old chocolate lab we just got to it from Purina ONE.

  • Angie Skidmore Hansen

    I have a cavachon puppy that is 4.5 months old. Since switching him from Science Diet to Whole Earth small kibble, he has started wretching and sometimes throws up his entire meal. I am thinking that there is something in there that his system doesn’t like. I am not sure what it could be. He did fine on the Science Diet puppy food, but I wanted something better for him. Any suggestions as to what I should try next?

  • Trinatri

    The pork lard was mentioned to me before i purchased it but the associate told me it should help the malnutrition stray that i found eat the food better. It’s good for gaining weight though… the stray i now call coco has gained 2 lbs after 12 days.

  • Trinatri

    i found an old stray and this food was recommended by the worker at petco. It’s been only 12 days feeding the stray that brand and there’s a remarkable difference. I will try the fish flavor next to boost Coco’s (name of the stray) skin.

  • Maggie

    Very good point. I won’t stop buying WEF simply because Purina took over. I will however keep a sharp eye on the ingredients.

  • Maggie

    Chewy and Amazon has the best prices on this food.

  • aimee

    That would make more sense.. if using old bags a sticker has to affix over the old information such that the correct info is in the bag.

  • DogFoodie

    I know I’ve bought bags of food with similar labels indicating ingredient changes.

  • I have not looked at any AAFCO publications. I once bought a reformulated food and it had a sticker the size of an address label on it somewhere noting a change. Can’t remember the exact wording. It’s been at least five years ago.

  • aimee

    Hi Sandy,

    I’ve never been able to confirm through AAFCO that “old bags” can continue to be used after a formula change. Do you know where in the AAFCO Official Publication it states this?

    On another forum where this was discussed someone with an OP said the closest they could find was that after a formula change the company for the first 6 months can have a banner across the front announcing the change.. something along the line of new or improved

    I think it is possible that some companies may continue to use old bags but I believe this would be in violation of AAFCO.

  • Check their website regularly. The ingredients list on the website should be the most current. Companies can use old bags on reformulated food for several months.

  • Bill

    I’m able to read the ingredients on the label and determine if they change it. If I see a change, then I’ll look into a different food. I see no reason to stop buying it until then.

  • Kathy Ryder

    Yes I just bought the Whole Earth Farms grain free small breed. My pappions love it.I wish there was coupons.This is my first 4lb bag and I’ll be buying more.

  • Pitlove

    bad gas is usually a symptom of a food intolerance. my boy gets horrid gas when he eats beef. since removing beef from his diet, no gas. he could be intolerant to an ingredient in the food. i’d try switching him to something like Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Puppy formula. Its the first food I can think of off the top of my head that is safe for a large breed puppy (meaning controlled levels of calcium to promote slow growth) that is not chicken based like the other 2 foods you were feeding.

  • Ale Brown

    I have a four month old Rhodesian Ridgeback whom I did the switch to Whole Earth Farms puppy formula from Bill Jac, I have noticed her stool isn’t hardening and she has very bad gas. I am not sure what else I could try with her I want to feed her good food but I want her stomach to be happy as well.

  • Maggie

    It’s probably the canned food when I started to feed my dog canned food (1/2 can a day of Kirkland Natures domain) she gained alot of weight . And she’s a.young Lab mix.

  • Crazy4cats
  • Lindsey

    Did you guys hear that Purina bought out Merrick? I am scared to death the formula is going to change and the quality of the food is going to go down. I don’t want to spend $50 on a bag of what could essential be Purina.

  • Lazaro Borges

    Welcome. The leave in lotion by VIBRAC for the itchiness, they say it has a carcinogen in it. So, I’ll have to use something else.

  • Crazy4cats

    That is great news! Sounds like you are on the right track. I hope your plan works for the itchiness. I haven’t had that problem with my pets. Mine are more prone to weight and digestive issues. They are also doing well on whole earth farms mixed with various toppers. I think I am going to try Victor’s healthy weight formula next. They have been rotating through the WEF grain free recipes with no issues.

    Thanks for the update!

  • Lazaro Borges

    Hi C4C,
    My dog is doing great on WEF and he enjoys the salmon oil either on his food or if I give it to him on a spoon. He still scratching and licking his paws though. Hopefully the salmon oil will help him improve even more from the inside. I’m thinking of getting something for the outside for his itchiness which isn’t bad and the law licking. I checked his paws and no redness, cuts or scrapes. I’ve heard tea tree oil is good for this. I had it in a spray form that was diluted which I had bought sometime last year, it seemed to help him. I will also look into this lotion for dogs that’s made by VIBRAC. I want to stay away from antihistamines for now to see if any of those products….salmon oil, tea tree oil, the VIBRAC lotion will help. Soon as I get some cash, I’ll place the order for the VIBRAC lotion and take a walk to CHERRYBROOK for the tea tre spray. Solid Gold sent me a coupon for a FREE 4 pound bag of dog food and FROMM sent me a $5 coupon for there food.

  • Lazaro Borges

    I stopped feeding him the Milk Bones just recently.

  • Stacy

    There is a site I just recently ran into, although I was researching tumors, BUT…. I saw that you’re feeding your dog Milk Bones. I remember going to Walmart before & looking on the box & not buying them. If you give your dog treats, you may want to know “what” you are also buying & how they disguise things. If I am not mistaken, I put them down because they may have contained BHA, BHT or BLUE 1 or so…. The site I went to was http://www.ottawavalleydogwhisperer.blogspot. You will learn alot from her.

  • Crazy4cats

    That is great! Just got home from being out of town. I’ll catch up more later!

  • Lazaro Borges

    FROMM Is sending me a $5 coupon for there food. Something else to look into for my dog, possibly as a rotation diet. We shall see.

  • Lazaro Borges

    C4C, my dog has been going through the transition from NBFD to WEF very well. His poops are not runny and his itching has subsided pretty much. I’m also adding the salmon oil which he seems to love also. So far so good. He is entering the part of more new food and less old food.

  • Crazy4cats

    If WEF doesn’t work out for you or you decide to rotate kibble, you can order Victor on Amazon.com if it is not in your area.

  • Crazy4cats

    Ok, Lazaro, remember to take it as slow as necessary. You have fed the other for a long time and your pup’s tummy may need time to adjust to the new food. I wish you well!

  • Lazaro Borges

    before going to petco, I checked to see if they had it but nope. Yes, I saw the store locator function. I exchanged the bag of NBFD for WEF HEALTHY WEIGHT. Today or tomorrow I will start the transitioning to the new food. Let’s see how well it goes.

  • Lazaro Borges

    I checked on the Petco website before going there and did not see it on there site or in the store. C4C, I returned the NBFD and exchanged it for WEF HEALTHY WEIGHT. I have enough NBFD left in the plastic container to do a transition slowly over the next 7 or 8 days maybe 10.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi Lazaro,

    All of the suggestions to feed twice daily are a very good idea. It helps their metabolism to run a bit faster. It also means less supplementing with treats. I feed my dogs twice daily.

    It doesn’t have to be exactly 12 hours. My dogs eat roughly 12 hours apart, around 6, but that’s how my schedule works.

  • Crazy4cats

    Petco carries the Wellness brand. They have a few weight control formulas as well. They are probably a little more expensive than WEF or NB though.
    Pitlove is correct, you wil only find Nutrisource or Victor at feed stores or specialty boutique pet supply stores.

  • Crazy4cats

    Ok, sounds good. I have had great luck with the WEF. You probably would want to buy the healthy weight formula if you do try it because it may be a smoother transition due to less change in the fat level. Jumping up to a significantly higher percentage may cause digestive upset. Especially since you have fed the other for so long. The slight jump in fat will be better. A little lower fiber may mean less poop and more nutrients being absorbed! I have my fingers crosses for you, Lazaro!

  • Pitlove

    Victor won’t be found at Petco or on chewy. com. usually it’s at feed stores. they have a store locator function on their website.

  • Lazaro Borges

    I looked on the Petco website and there is no Victor Dog food there. For now, I’ll see about getting something for him that is a little better with no lamb, cause he is allergic to it and something I can afford. I’m off to petco.

  • Lazaro Borges

    Victor dog food? Hmmm, not sure, but I’ll check at petco. If not at petco, I can order it from chewy.com. They might have it. I’ll look into it.

  • Lazaro Borges

    Hi C4C, no the salmon oil hasn’t arrived yet. It should be here tomorrow. With NBFD if I add a second meal, he will be pooping like crazy. With one meal alone, every walk I take with him, he poops and on many occasions on one walk, he will poop at least 3 times. He still has plenty of food left in the container to do a transition to a new food. I’m going back to petco today to return the NBFD and see what I can exchange it for. I’ll let you know what I get for him.

  • Crazy4cats

    i usually feed 1/2 cup less of dry for every 1/2 of a can I feed them.

    Another low fat kibble I’m considering is Victor healthy weight formula. Do you have Victor available in your area?

    Also, I have fed Nutrisource senior kibble which is lower in fat, but still higher in protein and fiber than most senior foods. It is, however, not grain free. I’m not opposed to feeding foods with grain occasionally.

    I hope this helps!

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Lazaro-
    I just think that 10.5% fiber is extremely high and 7.5% fat is extremely low. I’ve read that very high fiber can interfere with digestion of important nutrients. To me this food seems like it’s great for weight loss but would be best to start to wean off when maintaining weight. Average fiber in most kibble is around 4%. NBFD has more than twice that amount. I actually think my dogs do best on lower fat and higher fiber as well. Especially during the summer months. I like 5% to 6% fiber and between 10% to 14% fat. Have you got the salmon oil yet? I think that will be a great addition as well as a second meal instead of treats. Go ahead and open the new bag! You can use it to start transitioning to a new food. You know that there are a few regular posters on here that like to mix food to reach the percentages they are looking for. Maybe you could continue with the NBFD to mix with the new food to help cut the fat and increase the fiber. Good luck!

  • Storm’s Mom

    I agree with Pitlove.. I feed at 7am and 6pm, more or less. That’s what works best for me. Most of what I’ve read indicates it takes a dog 8-12 hours to digest food, so feeding every 12 hours makes sense from that perspective.

  • Pitlove

    yes 1 cup in the morning and 1 in the evening. you can feed however many hours apart your dog is hungry enough to eat as long as it’s reasonable. my dog wouldnt eat before the 12 hour mark, so i’ve stuck with that. you need to find out what works for your dog and stick to that routine.

  • Lazaro Borges

    Ok, so if on the bag it says for example, feed 2 cups per feeding, I would feed him 1 cup in the morning and 1 cup in the evening? And it should be 12 hours apart? Why 12?

  • Lazaro Borges

    C4C, what do you mean by concerns on a long term basis? I still haven’t opened the new bag yet.

  • Shawna

    Hi Chrissy,

    Wow, there’s a lot going on there.

    Weight management foods should be high protein and lower carb. This food is just the opposite. Here’s a Journal of Nutrition paper discussing the benefits of high protein for weight loss. “High-Protein Low-Carbohydrate Diets Enhance Weight Loss in Dogs” http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/8/2087S.full

    For several reasons this food is not the best option for keeping the cancers from coming back either.
    1. All kibbles are highly processed and subjected to high heat. Dr. Demian Dressler discusses how kibbles can contribute to, and potentially even cause, cancer in dogs in an article titled “Dog Food: Is There A Cancer Risk”. http://www.dogcancerblog.com/blog/dog-food-is-there-a-cancer-risk/
    2. Most kibbles are higher in starch. The starch helps bind the individual ingredients into the kibble form. Starch, which is readily converted to sugar, and sugar should be limited, or even avoided, when fighting or trying to prevent cancer. Instead look for foods with fiber to balance the sugar, like berries, foods higher in protein and foods higher in fat (pending there is no issues with the pancreas). A dehydrated or freeze dried food might be an option if you specifically need a dry food.
    3. The heat used to manufacturer kibbles damages nutrients in those foods. Many of the nutrients are added back in but some aren’t. Example – there are eight kinds of vitamin E. Several of those eight are replaced but at least four are not (these are called tocotrienols) and it is known that the cancer fighter of the E group is one of those four not replaced.

    Feed the highest quality of food you can afford as the lower quality foods are made from undesirable or just less healthy ingredients. Here’s an example, grain feed animals have a higher omega 6 ratio then do animals that are naturally fed.

    There are several foods that actually prevent cancer by causing the damaged cell to commit suicide (this is called apoptosis). Raspberries, garlic, pineapple (or an enzyme in pineapple called bromelain) and several more foods.

    There are also foods that kill cancer once it is formed by cutting off the blood (and therefore food) supply to the tumor (this is called antiangiogenesis). Foods that can do this are berries, garlic, bromelain/pineapple, certain mushrooms etc. These foods would make good “toppers” for the main diet as well as treats. There’s a really interesting TedTV talk about antiangiogenic foods given by oncologist Dr. William Li if you are interested in learning more about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkzfeJz66o

    If the cancer comes back or you want to focus on prevention, look at therapeutic grade frankincense essential oil. It can be added to water and diffused into the air daily. The oil has been shown to prevent the spread of cancer and kill cancer. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8505251.stm Dr. Melissa Shelton is the leading veterinary expert on essential oils. She wrote “The Animal Desk Reference” on EOs for pets. She also sells EOs specifically formulated for pets on her website. I would buy from her if interested in trying them out. http://www.animaleo.info/about-animaleo.html

    Grains are inflammatory and I assume that is why you are wanting to avoid them (I avoid them too). That said, potato (a nightshade plant) can be as problematic with certain orthopedic issues (like arthritis) as grains. The second ingredient in this food is potato.

    I hope some of the above info is helpful. Keeping researching and asking questions.. Good luck with your sweet baby and as a person who fosters and helps with rescue, THANK YOU for taking on a special needs baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a foster baby in my home right now that has some pretty serious illnesses, like cancer, we are trying to work through.

    Best of luck in getting and keeping your baby in the absolute best health possible!!!!!!!!!

  • Chrissy

    I have a question and I am hoping someone can offer some advice. One of our little girl pugs came to us having very severe orthopedic conditions. Since we adopted her we have seen a lot of improvements and still some set backs along the way. Also, she had to have extensive upper airway surgery for an elongated soft pallet, and other airway issues and it was discovered she also has laryngeal collapse. This surgery was all done prior to her having to have her mast cell tumor removal – she came down with cancer and they were in some pretty bad areas, so she had to go through some chemo to try and shrink them, but that was not effective and then we found the airway issues and her lumps were multiplying so we had to move forward with her surgeries since it was all going to be done in several parts because of her ortho stuff and anesthesia. Her tumors came back grade I and II between the 4 of them so we were so thankful for that and now she is doing much better.

    That is the background and I apologize for it being so long! My question is – we have to keep her weight down and even lower because of her extensive orthopedic conditions, her laryngeal collapse, as well as her being so prone to the Mast Cells – would whole earth farms be a good choice for us? We are looking for A FEW different, but HIGH QUALITY GRAIN FREE, weight management or weight reduction foods to feed her – we rotate between cans and add in a little dry foods.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated….we are hoping that this brand would work for her. Thank you so much for the help! I appreciate it so much – I get a little confused at times with all of the different weight foods out there…..I am new to all of this! Thank you!

    Chrissy

  • Lazaro Borges

    Sounds good. I still haven’t opened the new bag of NBFD. He still has some left in the dog food container. About 7-10 days left of food.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Lazaro-
    I also feed mine twice per day. However, I have two 80ish pound neutered male Lab/Retriever mix dogs. I have more calories to work with. Coincidentally, I am feeding them WEF Turkey and Duck kibble currently with various toppers every meal. I also have one that I have to be careful of his weight. WEF is lower in calories than their previous kibble which works out great for the summer months as it has been too hot for them to exercise much.

  • Lazaro Borges

    Oh, ok, I want him to maintain his weight with the WEF. I was trying to figure out the amount of carbs NBFD has, so I looked on DFA and it’s about 55% carbs.

  • Pitlove

    2 times a day every 12 hours. Usually around 8am and 8pm. Feeding once a day is way too little and those treats can not be supplemented as a complete and balanced meal. You definitely need to start feeding him twice a day and cut back on treats.

  • Storm’s Mom

    He only eats kibble once a day? Definitely start feeding him twice per day – half the daily amount in the morning, half in the evening. Cut out the treats. My guy has been neutered for 4 years, and it has made absolutely no difference whatsoever with his weight over the long term (if memory serves, there was a little bit of weight gain, but nothing that a little adjustment to his food and/or exercise (I forget now) didn’t solve). By the way, when I recommended WEF, I was doing so with the NON Healthy Weight varieties in mind.

  • Lazaro Borges

    C4C, do you feed your dog twice a day or once a day?

  • Lazaro Borges

    I always gave him treats since he eats once a day. I wonder the reason why spayed and neutered dogs gain weight if it has to do with there hormone levels being diminished after surgery. Just a thought. It certainly doesn’t slow them down when it comes to running and playing. how often do you feed your dogs?

  • Pitlove

    Well, my pitbull is intact and I don’t intend to neuter him, but I have heard about neutered dogs gaining weight easier. However I still can’t find a conclusive reason as to why that’s said.

    I have never fed a weight loss or weight management food and my dog has always been at an ideal weight. I have fed foods with 20% fat (Orijen) as well and he is fine.

    The main thing to do is feed to maintain current weight. Getting hung up on him having to be on a weight loss food is really not needed. I read the feeding guidelines and then feed according to activity level and ideal weight. Sometimes that means feeding less than the guidelines. If I were you I wouldn’t be worried about feeding WEF or the fat content, as it’s really not high. It’s a good food and I think it’s worth a shot. It’s far better of a food than Natural Balance anyway.

    I personally would not feed those treats. Also, it is a myth that kibble cleans teeth. If you are concerned about his teeth you need to be brushing them regularly. Thats the only way, aside from dentals at the vet to make sure his teeth stay healthy. I don’t feed a lot of treats in my house. My dog isn’t very big into them anyway. When I do feed treats I usually feed freeze dried raw treats and he does not get one every day. It’s a rare occassion at my house. But as the others have said, I think it aids in keeping weight in check.

  • Lazaro Borges

    He’s on NBFD right now. I’d like to change his food to WEF. Before he was neutered, he went through a few types of dogs foods. We started out on Royal Canin, then jumped over to Nutro, then tomPro Plan, then back to Nutro, then to NB. With NB, we did different formulas. We found out he is allergic to lamb. The formula he was on before being switched to FD, was NB chicken, turkey and duck meal formula. When he was neutered, he began to put on weight. Not immediately, but the following year it began to creep up. I began to look for something that would help him shed those few pounds and that’s when I found NBFD. Now the NB chicken, turkey and duck meal formula has I think 13-14% fat. That formula is no longer made. With that formula, he got 1 cup also, but it was rich. So I guess you can say is my fear is him putting on weight if I switch him to WEF which has 8-11% fat. Of course, I’m not sure about this the more I think of it unless if I feed him WEF and monitor him. When it comes to treats, what should I give him instead? I guess I have a little trouble putting my words down so everyone can understand. Sorry for the confusion.

  • Storm’s Mom

    I’m confused.. if you’re not worried about your dog gaining weight, why are you worried about feeding WEF and thinking about feeding a “healthy weight” (read: intended for weight loss) food? The wildcard, regardless of what dry dog food you feed, are the treats. They are loaded with empty and unbalanced calories, and your dog doesn’t need them. If you cut out the treats, you shouldn’t have to worry about his weight at all, if you feed what the bag suggests to start and then adjust if necessary. To answer your question directly, of the foods you mentioned, the only one I’d consider feeding is WEF, unless there is a specific reason for keeping the fat low (keep in mind that if the fat is low, the carbs are highly to be sky high, which creates its own set of issues.. for a healthy dog, I’d prefer moderate/high fat to high carbs any day).

  • Lazaro Borges

    Actually he hasn’t packed in any pounds. He’s maintained his weight very very well. He only gets treats in the morning time. It’s usually 1 or 2. I’m still looking into switching him. If he can maintain his weight on 1 cup of WEF and not put on any weight, it would be great. The rep told me when I make the switch, to start him off at the recommended amount and then slowly cut back. I take him for walks 4 times a day. Each walk is between 20-45 minutes and that depends on the weather. Winter time I have no problems walking a little more then 45 minutes. I love winter and he enjoys it also. So we will see about doing the switch when this last 15 pound back is finished which should be, sometime in October. I’m also looking into SOLID GOLD GOLD COAST HEALTHY WEIGHT which like NBFD has a Tadeo les fatal in it, 6.5%. Water do you think about solid gold or maybe a different brand?

  • Storm’s Mom

    If you’re worried about him packing on the pounds, I’d ditch feeding him treats, as others have recommended. The treats are of far more concern in that regard than pretty much any dry dog food you could choose.

  • Crazy4dogs

    I’m in complete agreement with C4C. It looks like he’s getting a lot of calories from the treats. Green is for your size dog are 95 kcal & Milk Bones look like they’re close to that in kcals too.

  • Lazaro Borges

    I’ve even thought about going completely cNned food for him, but, you know they say dogs need something crunchy for there teeth to keep them clean. Another reason for me wanting to switch is because NBFD only has a prebiotic and no probiotics. When I spoke with the WEF rep over the phone, she said the food is to maintain the weight, not lose weight. On the bag of WEF like all other bags of food, it says how much to feed. She said follow that guide on the bag and slowly reduce the amount of food until you see him stable weight wise. WEF is more rich then NBFD. My question is, if I feed him let’s say 1 3/4 cup of food, how much do I remove? I don’t want him to starve. Because if I remove 1/2 cup of WEF, I think he will starve. The fat content in the canned food of WEF says I think not less then 6%. So I’m wondering, what is the maximum amount of fat? I lol call them and find out.

  • Crazy4cats

    Lol! Unfortunately, I can’t afford diamonds because I have too many furry mouths to feed. That’s ok by me. His coat and skin may be dry due to lack of fat in his diet. You could just buy a small bag of WEF to see how he does. I don’t think the fat level is very high at all. I hear salmon oil is good for dogs, but I’ve not used it. I use sardines, canned salmon or tuna once a week as meal mixers and a krill oil pill once a week.
    I’ve not looked at the Solid Gold formula you mention. Hope it works out!

  • Lazaro Borges

    He’s been on it now for about 2 years now maybe 3. That’s why I was asking about WEF. I just bought another bag of NBFD 15 pounds. The fat content in WEF worries me. If I switch him to it, I get the feeling he’s gonna pack on the pounds. If I do rotational feeding, won’t that up and down in weight wreak havoc on his heart? Oh and even took a look at Solid Gold Gold Coast healthy weight formula. They are sending me a few samples to try on my dog. I also ordered GRIZZLY SALMON OIL for him because his coat and skin look dry and he’s been scratching a bit. I’m on a budget, but I do want what’s best for my dog. We can all have bad moments in life, but that’s why we have dogs, to get us through it as man or woman’s best friend. Although they say a woman’s best friend is a diamond.

  • Crazy4cats

    I think adding canned food is a great idea! It’s less processed and adds much needed moisture to the diet. It just seems like your dog is getting as much calories from treats as it is well balanced food. Between that and the fact that NB has so much fiber could be concerns on a long term basis. You sound like a concerned pet owner and will make sure that his nutritional needs will be met. Good luck!

  • Lazaro Borges

    Yes, 1 cup a day. If I add anymore food, he won’t eat it. When it comes to doggies bones, either the greenies or milk bone. When it comes to walks, well potty break walks and then we walk around enjoying the day. I have a bad foot, so running is not a good idea. Not sure how many calories are in the doggie bones. It’s 20-40 minutes a day for each walk. Oh I forgot to mention, I add a little bit of canned food to his kibble. It’s not the best type, it’s Ceaser’s. I know, not a good canned food.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi Lazaro,
    I agree with Crazy4cats. I’m wondering what kind of “doggie bones” (including calorie count) and what kind of walks. I walk my dogs daily, but only once and it’s about 2+ miles at a fairly brisk pace since it takes between 30-40 minutes. I know it’s accurate because I use a pedometer. Are you walking 4 times per day for 20-40 minutes each time or is that the total time walking?

  • Crazy4dogs

    Too funny C4C, we are on the same wave length! 🙂
    I was just looking up the kcals on Fat Dogs since I know they’re very low. Looking at DFA calculator and Fat Dogs Calculator (even though I feed less) the dog should be eating about 2.5 cups per day. Big calories in the “doggie bones”?

  • Crazy4cats

    I just checked out Natural Balance Fat Dogs kibble on their website. It states only 250 calories per cup. Your pup only gets one cup per day? That isn’t very much. What kind of doggie bones are you feeding him? Maybe a little more food and less treats would be a more balanced complete diet. The WEF weight formula has more calories, but a lot less fiber which I think sounds a little healthier. You could always rotate between the two. Variety is very good for dogs just like humans. Your dog is lucky he gets so many walks everyday. Mine are jealous. Lol!

  • Lazaro Borges

    Well he had put on a few pounds and he needed to lose the weight. On top of that he is neutered. I want to keep him from putting on those extra pounds again. I walk him 4 times a day between 20-45 minutes.

  • Pitlove

    Hi- Why is he on a weight loss food if he’s at his ideal weight?

  • Lazaro Borges

    I came very close to buying WHOLE EARTH FARMS HEALTHY WEIGHT today, but I repurchased Natural Balance Fat Dogs for my dog. What kept me from purchasing it was the fat content, between 8% min. 11% max. My other fear was my dog putting on weight because of the fat content. He’s at a great weight 23-24 pounds, neutered 6 year old Pom poodle mix. I contacted them and they told me if you see him gain weight, cut back a little. By how much? He gets 1 cup of NBFD once a day. In the morning he gets one or two doggie bones. Maybe when this bag of NBFD is almost finished, maybe I’ll buy it. What do you all think?

  • Crazy4dogs

    Has your older girl been to the vet for a dental to check and clean her teeth since their bothering her? It could do wonders! 🙂

  • Pitlove

    I agree that WEF is good, however I disagree that Fromm is overpriced and doesn’t have a good selection. I feed Fromm and I find the price excellent for the quality and I find they have more choices than a lot of other brands if you look into every single one of their lines.

    I also feel comfortable feeding every single product Fromm makes, which I can’t say even for some of the best companies. Needless to say, me and my dog and my wallet are very pleased with it.