Wellness Super 5 Mix Dog Food (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★☆

Wellness Super 5 Mix Dry Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4 stars.

The Wellness Super 5 Mix product line includes 11 dry dog foods, three claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for growth, seven for adult maintenance and one for all life stages.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Chicken Recipe
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Large Breed Adult Health
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Large Breed Puppy Health
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Just for Puppy (4.5 stars)
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Healthy Weight (2.5 stars)
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Just for Seniors (2.5 stars)
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Whitefish and Sweet Potato
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Lamb, Barley and Salmon Meal
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Small Breed Adult Health (4.5 stars)
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Small Breed Just for Puppy (4.5 stars)
  • Wellness Super 5 Mix Small Breed Healthy Weight (4.5 stars)

Wellness Super 5 Mix Chicken Recipe was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Wellness Super 5 Mix Chicken Recipe

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 25% | Fat = 14% | Carbs = 54%

Ingredients: Deboned chicken, chicken meal, oatmeal, ground barley, ground brown rice, tomato pomace, rye flour, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), tomatoes, rice bran, whitefish, natural chicken flavor, carrots, spinach, sweet potatoes, apples, blueberries, ground flaxseed, ground millet, dicalcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, vitamins [beta-carotene, vitamin E supplement, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), vitamin A supplement, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, vitamin D-3 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B-12 supplement], minerals [zinc sulfate, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, ferrous sulfate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganese proteinate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite], choline chloride, mixed tocopherols (added to preserve freshness), taurine, glucosamine hydrochloride, chondroitin sulfate, chicory root extract, garlic powder, Yucca schidigera extract, green tea extract, dried Lactobacillus plantarum, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation products, rosemary extract

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.5%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis22%12%NA
Dry Matter Basis25%14%54%
Calorie Weighted Basis22%30%48%

The first ingredient in this dog food lists chicken. Although it is a quality item, raw chicken contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is chicken meal. Chicken meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh chicken.

The third ingredient is oatmeal, a whole-grain product made from coarsely ground oats. Oatmeal is naturally rich in B-vitamins, dietary fiber and can be (depending upon its level of purity) gluten-free.

The fourth ingredient is barley. Barley is a starchy carbohydrate supplying fiber and other healthy nutrients. Unlike grains with a higher glycemic index, barley can help support more stable blood sugar levels.

The fifth ingredient is brown rice, a complex carbohydrate that (once cooked) can be fairly easy to digest. However, aside from its natural energy content, rice is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The sixth ingredient includes tomato pomace. Tomato pomace is a controversial ingredient, a by-product remaining after processing tomatoes into juice, soup and ketchup.

Many praise tomato pomace for its high fiber and nutrient content, while others scorn it as an inexpensive pet food filler.

Just the same, there’s probably not enough tomato pomace here to make much of a difference.

The seventh item is rye flour, a finely-ground product obtained by milling rye. Rye is a cereal grain nutritionally similar to barley.

The eighth ingredient lists canola oil. Many applaud canola for its favorable omega-3 content while a vocal minority condemn it as an unhealthy fat.

Much of the objection regarding canola oil appears to be related to the use of genetically modified rapeseed as its source material.

Yet others find the negative stories about canola oil more the stuff of urban legend than actual science.1

In any case, plant-based oils like canola are less biologically available to a dog than fish oil as a source of quality omega-3 fats.

The ninth ingredient is tomato, a nutrient rich vegetable consisting of about 72% carbohydrates.

The tenth ingredient is rice bran, a healthy by-product of milling whole grain rice. The bran is the fiber-rich outer layer of the grain containing starch, protein, fat as well as vitamins and minerals.

The next ingredient is whitefish, a marine or freshwater species native to Canada and the California coast.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With five notable exceptions

First, flaxseed, is one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

Next, chicory root is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

In addition, garlic can be a controversial item. Although most experts favor the ingredient for its numerous health benefits, garlic (in rare cases) has been linked to Heinz body anemia in dogs.2

However, the limited professional literature we surveyed provided no definitive warnings regarding the use of garlic — especially when used in small amounts (as it likely is here).

Next, we note the inclusion of dried fermentation products in this recipe. Fermentation products are typically added to provide enzymes to aid the animal with digestion.

And lastly, this food also contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Wellness Super 5 Mix Dry Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Wellness Super 5 Mix dog food looks like an above average dry product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 25%, a fat level of 14% and estimated carbohydrates of about 54%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 27% and a mean fat level of 14%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 51% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 52%.

Near-average protein. Below-average fat. And above-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Wellness Super 5 Mix dog food is a plant-based kibble using a moderate amount of chicken and fish meals as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

Those looking for a comparable wet food from the same company may want to check out our review of Wellness Canned Dog Food.

Please note some products may have been given higher or lower ratings based upon our estimate of their total meat content.

Special Alert

Rice ingredients can sometimes contain arsenic. Until the US FDA establishes safe upper levels for arsenic content, pet owners may wish to limit the total amount of rice fed in a dog's daily diet.

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Notes and Updates

11/19/2009 Original review
06/20/2010 Review updated
06/03/2011 Review updated
12/22/2012 Review updated
12/22/2012 Last Update

  1. Mikkelson, B and DP, Oil of Ole, Urban Legends Reference Pages (2005)
  2. Yamato et al, Heinz Body hemolytic anemia with eccentrocytosis from ingestion of Chinese chive (Allium tuberosum) and garlic (Allium sativum) in a dog, Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association 41:68-73 (2005)
  • George

    Eat less exercise more. The suggested feeding amount are exactly that-suggested. If your dog is getting heavy feed him/her less and/or increase exercise. Labs love to play and exercise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/annie.russell.33 Annie Russell

    Earthborn ocean fusion has a lower protein content and less carbohydrates. Whatever that all means. I just stopped feeding Earthborn ocean fusion a few days ago cuz my dogs were peeing blood and luckily it was nothing serious and vet said stop feeding it and i noticed they haven’t been peeing blood now

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1140685339 Betsy Greer

    I agree with Jan. Earthborn’s Coastal Catch is their grain free and their Ocean Fusion is grain inclusive. The Wellness Core Ocean has more meat protein; I just picked up a bag of it myself recently.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    Hi, Karen. Imo, if you mean Wellnss Core Ocean then I’d certainly go with that instead of Earthborn Ocean Fusion. Core is grain free and the EB Ocean Fusion is not. However, EB does have a grain free fish based food (can’t remember it’s name) but I still perfer Core.

  • Karen

    Wellness Ocean or Earthborn Holistic Ocean Fusion. Can’t decide. Help, please.

  • Sara’s Mom

    Wellness Complete Health Super5 Healthy Weight VS. Wellness Core Grain Free Reduced Fat…I have a female rescue lab (about 8 years old give or take). When I adopted her she was underweight but has filled out significantly since (5 mths). I haven’t weighed her since November (67Lbs) but her weight has gone up. People (rude people) have started saying she is fat! I think it wouldn’t hurt to lose a couple pounds to ensure she remains healthy. Can anyone provide insight to using the Core Vs Complete health? Right now she is on Wellness Super5Mix and loves it and is doing well except for the extra cushion. Thank you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jean.snyderkull Jean Snyder-Kull

    In response to Brook,

    I have used Wellness Super 5 Mix with Chicken for years and began using it when my first Bernese Mountain Dog had diarrhea from antibiotics she was on. Yogurt, etc. did not help but with the help of this food and additional Sweet Potatoes, she finally got her intestional tract back to normal. This product has Sweet Potatoes and I have also heard really good things about the Puppy formula. Good luck with your puppy. I am sure Wellness Brand Puppy Food will serve your puppy well and your puppy will enjoy the taste. Jeannie

  • Walter

    I also had the same issue with my Chocolate Lab months ago. The vet said it was food poisoning and put her on meds and a bland diet. She had to stay with the vet for 2 days. There was actually a recall of the Wellness Super 5 Large Breed Puppy come to find out and Petsmart hadn’t mentioned it.

  • Lauren

    My dogs do NOT like this wellness recipe! They are not picky eaters but had to return the food they disliked it that much. Tried the lamb, tried chicken, and tried fish.

  • Ed

    I understand (doh!) thanks for your response!

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    It is 4 stars. The group is 4 stars except for the ones that have a different rating notated in parentheses.

  • Ed

    I noticed that the Lamb, Barley and Salmon Meal is not rated?? And that’s the one I have…. so…

  • Joanne 2551

    Yes, please see my comment above!

  • Joanne 2551

    Also their stools have improved and are solid!

  • Joanne 2551

    I had been giving my 3 small dogs Wellness Super 5 small breed adult health for years and was very happy with it, but had to change as I noticed that their stools started getting mushy and smelled like vomit!  The food also smelled like fish!  It was terrible!  I changed them to Precise lamb meal and turkey, hopefully this works out for them!

  • Vgenereux

     try acana I feed it to my service dog he does great on it ! great human grade food 5 star !!

  • Pattyvaughn

    I hope he continues to do well.  You may want to give him probiotics to make sure the bad bacteria in his gut have some competition from good ones.

  • Balch8

    We have been feeding the Chicken Wellness for about 8 weeks now, and had to take one of our dogs to vet.  He is alternating between hard and runny stools.  She said he had a lot of bad bacteria is his system.  This has started since switching to this food.  Talked to breeder, who had always used Diamond Natural till the recall, but she said she has gone back to it as it seems to suit the needs of her dogs better.  So we have switched him to the Lamb and Rice, Diamond Natural, and already he is doing a lot better.

  • BeagleMom

    WOW. The Wellness Super 5 Healthy Weight 2.5 stars and I pay HOW MUCH for that crap?  I need to find another food. 

  • Snafoo

    Yes.

  • Stephberra

    Does it have a fishy smell ?

  • Gunny

    Bought a small bag last night and started “weaning’ him on slowly (about two tablespoons at first) and am anxious to see what sort of stool content he has. Eukenuba Lamb & Rice  was former food which gave him very small and VERY hard little poops! BTW- he is a Service Dog so I dont care about money on this. Need to drop him down a few pds and this food looked best. Thanks!

  • Mike

    If u didn’t wein him off his other food h was on that’s why the new food is making him sick

  • Liz

    Thanks for your reply…what are you feeding now?

  • Vchrissmith

    Liz, I have had my two dogs on Wellness supermix chicken since May. First of Oct the one started throwing up and the runs and bad. Vet put him on meds and diet of boiled hamburger/rice. Twice I have tried to whean him back on to Wellness. My older dog started a week after him with same thing. He got really bad he is almost 17. Went to vet. Had to have an IV and meds. Is this a virus they have or the food? I don’t know. I did call Wellness and they are aware of my situation. I switched to a better brand because I lost my baby Tide last year who was only 8 yrs old to cancer. It is up to us to take care of our beloved dogs. I just started another brand of food with some hamburger/rice and so far they are going good. Its only rated two stars though. I worry so much about my buddies and just want them better and healthy. Please call Wellness and let them know.

  • Liz

    I have fed Wellness for years and just recently my dogs aren’t responding well to it. Symptoms are throwing up yellow bile, soft stools and terrible gas. I feed the supermix chicken. Is anyone aware of any changes. Thanks for any help.

  • EvesHumanMom

    The Wellness homepage is currently unavailable due to Sandy, so they recommend the above phone number and info@wellpet.com for inquiries.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    This is an fyi….just read on Petsmart’s FB page that Wellpet is pulling the Small Breed Adult 12lb. bag from their shelves due to the possibility of mold contamination.  The bb date is: 8/18/2013.  If you have a bag they are saying to return to Petsmart for a full refund or, if questions, you can call 1-800-225-0904.  Hope Dr. Mike S. sees this and confirms.  Thanks!  

    At this time there are no other formulas, or sizes, affected.

  • Marie

    got a purebred german shepherd as a present, oskar was 2months old. kept him on iams large breed pup for about 4months, then switched to wellness for the last 2months or so. i buy 30lbs for about $60 every 3-4wks… but im willing to feed my baby something healthy & awesome : ) his poops are more firm & less smelly. his coat is beautiful. hes so energetic & progressively getting STRONGER. on sundays, i mix the dry food with a can of merrick wet food. he inhales it. hes happy. im happy!

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  • Rankjumper

    Thanx a lot you guys really helped me.Thank You and god bless you.

  • Kim P.

    We tried this food for about 8 months, and had made the decision to use this based on my own research (but am glad to see it confirmed here).  However, after using the product, I found that it was very unusually “crumbly”.  It broke apart into a fine dust.  I’d say about 5% of the food became a pile of powder in the bottom of the bag.  So I mixed that powder with a bit of water one day, and watched it turn into paste.  Is this really what I want inside my dog?  :o(   I watched my dog’s stools carefully — and they were not consistent or firm at times.  I had a bad “gut” feeling about this food, and stopped giving it to him.  There was just something NOT RIGHT with the food turning into dust inside my dog’s mouth as well.  Just my observations…..  

  • Naiterbaiter

    When are you going to do an update to Wellness. They have changes somethings and they no longer include garlic powder in the pet food.

  • Myfinthing

    I like this brand because it’s reasonably priced and decent quality (at least based on ingredients and smell). Unfortunately, it made my pug very gassy. The problem disappeared when we switched her to a different brand (nature’s variety the regular kind, not the grain free). I still occasionally get her the wellness wet food but usually just add fresh food like eggs, cottage, yogurt, and veggies. I’m not sure why I’m such a sucker for wellness though. I normally ignore branding bells and whistles, usually can’t even remember the names of brands.

  • Kirstie

    To The German Shepherd Owner:
     I would try Taste Of The Wild, Or Blue Buffalo. I have had a few puppies that didn’t do so well on the Wellness, and better on those two foods. You could also add an egg, or salmon oil. (JeffersPet.com sells the oil for a good price). 
    Thanks,
    K

  • BryanV21

    It’s possible, but being so young I wouldn’t think it would be a problem. I mean, if the dog had been used to a lower protein food they may not be able to adjust, but at that age I wouldn’t give up on such a good food. Although I believe Orijen has too much calcium for large breeds, which could lead to your dog growing too quickly and adding to the joint problems shepherds already get.

    Adding a bit more fiber to the food, such as canned pumpkin (not pie filling, just pure pumpkin), may help. Or even some plain yogurt, which provides probiotics to aid in digestion.

  • Claudia Benson

    We adopted a German Shepherd Mix, 7 months old and we started feeding him Orijen large breed puppy food.  He has had nothing but diarrhea since we brought him home.  He was dewormed again three days ago but still soft stools.  Every time I feed him rice and cottage cheese his stools get a tiny bit better.  Orijen is such a good food.  Could he not do well on it?

  • sharron

    sorry – didn’t mean to cause problems for anyone

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hi Gorco, Sharron and RuledByAchi…

    Your use of multiple identities as evidenced by your recent comments posted here using the above mentioned monikers from the same computer is a violation of Our Commenting Policy.

    This rule clearly states:

    “…the use of multiple identities or other deceptive tactics designed to mislead readers are strictly forbidden.”

    You may continue to post here. However, please maintain a single identity to help others consistently know to whom they are addressing their replies.

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  • Gorco

    sorry to be confusing – when i first found this site i started off asking so many questions that i thought i was being a pest. So i changed the name thinking perhaps people wouldn’t realize it was the same person. i know it’s silly thinking. lexee did like the acana  she started off ok on it then she started having more bm’s than normal, that’s when i put her back on the royal, and she’s doing just fine.
    will keep her on that.

  • EvesHumanMom

    Hi, Gorco/Ruledbyachi,
    I thought you and Lexee were happy with the Acana duck and pear, just that you were concerned that she might gain weight.  Also, that your nutritionist thought that it was the chicken that she was sensitive to.  And the RC has chicken by product.  This has a few non-chicken recipes with grain or without.

    PS Why are you posting with two totally different names? 

  • Gorco

    thanks aimee!!

    i have done the holistic foods – mostly acana, and i found that lexee pooped twice as much – i’ll stay with royal canin – she does better on it. she’s about a 1/2 – 1 lb overweight.
    also in the past i found that she doesn’t like alot of the grain free, holistic type foods. Better stay with what she likes and eats. She used to be a very picky eater.

  • aimee

    Hi Gorco,

    Personally I don’t think we have enough information to tell which of these two foods would be better for your dog.

    Both have similar nutrient profiles though RC may have a higher fiber level.

    It may come down to kibble size and what your dog prefers.

    I’ve fed RC for weight loss, though not this formula, and my dog  maintained excellent coat, muscling, and energy while on it. It worked well for her!

  • BryanV21

    Sorry to say it like that, but honestly there’s no comparison between the two. I would never consider Royal Canin at all.

  • Gorco

    yes seriously

  • BryanV21

    Seriously? I don’t know if that Wellness food is best, but Royal Canin is crap. Just look at the ingredients.

    That particular RC starts with corn, chicken by-product meal, wheat gluten, and corn gluten meal. Junk, junk, junk, and junk. 

  • guest

    hi

    which is better Royal Canin Weight Care, or Wellness Small Breed Healthy Weight for a Chihuahua?

    Thanks

  • Chloethelhasa

    i switched my dog from iams to wellness . seen great improvement . she’s a lhasa apso

  • Hound Dog Mom

    LOL my female is like that. When she was about 6 months old I was slicing up cake and scooping ice cream for a birthday, I had a slice of cake at the counter in front of me and was in the process of scooping ice cream she came running across the kitchen, jumped up to the counter, took a huge bite out of the piece of cake and ran. She’s a horrible counter surfer, can’t leave anything on the counter unattended.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Scratch that. Free shipping doesn’t apply for dog food. :(

  • Shawna

    OH MY GOSH!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!

    I LOVE how you phrase that “gifted at stealing food”.  I have one like that too..  A much nicer way to describe my little fur-piggy!!  She has been known to steal food right out of my one year old grandsons mouth.. Ughhh

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hey Piratesmom –

    Didn’t realize you were in Canada. I’ve found this site: http://www.renspets.com/

    It says free shipping on orders over $60 throughout Canada and I don’t see anything about weight restrictions. They’ve got some good brands: Wellness, Fromm, Merrick, Acana, Holistic Select, Innova, and Nutro Ultra (all have some corn/wheat/soy free grain-inclusive foods).

  • Stormsmom

    Hi piratesmom, I’m in Canada, too – BC – unfortunately, there’s no free online shipping through any online Canadian supplier.  It really sucks.  Hopefully it will change soon. 

  • piratesmom

    Thanks Shawna, thats interesting information. 

    I’m mostly avoiding wheat and soy because they are the primary allergen culprits for my female – so immediately not permitted in the house, or I will have a balloon dog.  The deadly trio as I call them, cause her to have immediate swelling, but wheat alone (because she is obsessed with bread and has been known to steal whole loaves) just seems to turn her pink and make her eyes run.  In my defense… she is gifted at stealing food.  I’m waiting for her to figure out how to open the fridge ;)

  • piratesmom

    Thanks Bryan, unfortunately I have a very limited selection in my area – and as I just told Hound Mom, I’m in Canada so ordering online is very cost prohibitive.  Quite frankly – I can’t afford to feed three English Setters raw.  I am definitely learning some interesting things about grains and inflamation, but as a large breed dog owner (Setters have similar growth concerns as large/giant breeds) I am more inclined to follow the advice of canine nutrition consultants like Linda Arndt (greatdanelady.com).  As I was telling Shawna before, I’m not entirely sold on the “dogs are carnivores” argument either… ;)  

  • piratesmom

    Thanks Hound Dog Mom… unfortunately I’m in Canada, so the free shipping doesn’t apply.  I have looked for Canadian suppliers, but they generally aren’t offering free shipping… and the cost to ship a couple of 30 lb bags of dog food is crazy!!  If you know of one in Canada, please pass it along!!  I would really love to try the Avo Derm or Breeders Choice foods from Wellness on my male.   

  • Shawna

    Piratesmom ~~ not trying to get you to go grain free but am trying to clear up misinformtaion.

    Potato has a protein (glycoprotein actually) in it called a lectin.  The lectins in potato (and tomato, sweet peppers and all nightshade plants) exacerbate (and even cause) arthritic conditions and as such are inflammation causing.  However, ALL grains have lectins that are just as problematic.  AND most grains also have very unbalanced omega 6 to 3 ratios making them quite inflammatory.

    Example per nutritiondata.com (true, this is only one source).

    Baked potato with flesh/skin and no salt (figured it would be closest to what would be in dog food.  The baked potato has an inflammation factor of -179 (moderately inflammatory) with an omega 6 to 3 ratio of 3:1 — which is ideal for dogs.

    Rice has an inflammation factor of -184 (moderately inflammatory) with an omega 6 to 3 ratio of 5:1 — within the ideal range.

    Oats has an inflammation factor of -410 (strongly inflammatory) with an omega 6 to 3 ratio of 22:1.  VERY high in inflammatory omega 6 fatty acids.

    Barley and rye are gluten grains like wheat.  So if you avoid wheat you should also avoid barley and rye.

  • BryanV21

    There are plenty of grain-free foods that don’t use potatoes, white or otherwise. For example, California Natural grain-free Salmon and Kangaroo use peas and lentils. Of course the Kangaroo has below-average protein content (21%), and the Salmon is a little above-average (28%).

    BTW, a lot of people haven’t given higher protein foods a chance, as they see the loose stool or diarrhea and immediately give up on it. Higher protein, in the form of meat… not plant sources, is more ideal for a carnivore like a dog. Some dogs just can’t do it, but that’s usually due to a medical reason, not their system just can’t handle it.

    And there are good raw foods that come pre-mixed, so that you don’t have to do any guesswork in making it yourself. Take Primal… all you do is thaw out enough of it to feed your dog, and put it in the bowl.

    In all, good luck with everything, and I hope the advice you’re getting here helps make you and your pup happier.

  • Dog Food Ninja

    Piratesmom, you are correct that white potatoes are inflammatory. But your not taking into account is that grains are inflammatory too. white potato and grain free is the best way to go. Look for foods made with sweet potato and tapioca. Grainsabd potatoes are loaded with lectins phytic acid and all sorts of anti nutrients and other inflammatory properties.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    piratesmom –

    I have the same predicament, no good pet supply stores. I do most of my shopping online and have found that many stores have cheaper prices and offer free shipping. Wag.com, petflow.com, naturalk9supplies.com, and doggiefood.com all have a wide selection of quality foods and offer free shipping with no weight limits when you spend a certain amount (usually orders over $49).

  • piratesmom

    At the time I had been looking to buy the Wellness, I was looking for large breed puppy food – this is probably why I was scared off.  I am unfortunately quite limited in what I can buy in my location.  I would have loved to try my guys on the Pinnacle line, particularly the Avo Derm food, but none of the stores in my area carry it. 

  • piratesmom

    Yeah, I’m really not interested in going grain-free if I can avoid it.  I’m glad to hear not all of their foods are manufactured by Diamond though.  I find that once I get past 32% protein with my dogs, their stools get really soft and at 40% it is completely formless.  The reason I’m not all that interested in grain free is because my male has had a back injury that still plagues him and potatoes are bad for inflamation, but most formulations are still relying on potatoes as an alternate to grains.  Grains don’t bother me, but I try my darndest to avoid wheat, corn and soy.  I’m still concerned about the low protein.  I might try Summit Holistics first – but I’m limited to chicken and lamb which doesn’t excite me.  Oh well, makes me feel a bit better if I do decide to try Wellness. 

  • Hound Dog Mom

     That’s good news that they dropped Diamond.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    I’ve been in communication with Wellness because I want to add their Core Small Breed to my rotation.  I’ve been told that they don’t use Diamond any more.  I know that Core wasn’t made there anyway, but I won’t use a company that utilizes Diamond in any way, so I guess I’m gonna trust what they say.  I know they are expanding their Indiana plant and that most (if not all now) of their foods are made there.  Of course, their canned foods aren’t, just the dry.  I also recommend, if you’re gonna use Wellness, that you go with their Core line.  I like the ingredients in their Core.  It does contain potatoes, but they don’t seem to bother my dogs. 

  • Hound Dog Mom

    piratesmom –

    As far as I know only the Welness Large Breed Puppy formula is manufactured by Diamond. Personally I would recommend a food that is grain-free and has at least 30% protein, anything below 30% really is much too low. Check out Wellness Core if you like the Wellness foods or check out some of the 5 star foods on this site. There are many options, some pretty budget friendly and some not so budget friendly.

  • piratesmom

    So, I’m trying to prospect some foods for my puppy (for when she is moved off of puppy food) and I had been thinking about the Wellness Lamb, Barley and Salmon or the Whitefish and Sweetpotatoe.  My concerns with the Wellness food is that A) it is manufactured by Diamond, who has had quite a few recalls this year and B) these two formulas have less than 25% protein.  I like to keep my dogs between 25% and 30% protein.  I have fed my dogs Taste of the Wild, but because of the manufacturer I’m feeling less confident about it. 

  • dave’s hounds

    I’ve been been feeding fed my hounds ziwipeak air dried for about 8 months which is high in fat. They did very well on it – better than any kibble for sure, but now they are on canned and Epigen 90 (high protein low fat and carbs) and they are they are also doing very well. i do add pumpkin seed oil, fish oil, or other high quality Omega 3-6-9 oils at first feeding. I think I will rotate back and forth – I like the airdried and I like low fat in Epigen 90.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Jess,

    The Dog Food Advisor community encourages “courteous critiques, polite debate and calm disagreement”.

    Unfortunately, your recent remarks compel me to remind you to please adhere to Our Commenting Policy which states:

    “… we delete comments that exceed the boundaries of courteous behavior. This includes remarks that are rude, profane, mean-spirited, disrespectful, lack good manners or otherwise unrelated to the topic at hand.”

    Please be sure your future remarks comply with these rules.

  • Toxed2loss

    Thanks Hounddogmom! I have to say 10 miles a day, woot, woot!!! Love it!! You are the primo. Hound dog momma! That’s fantastic!!!

  • hounddogmom12

    Wow Toxed, I’ve gotta say Rosie is gorgeous and sure appears to be very well taken care of despite allegedly having an owner that’s too busy on the internet to pay any attention to her. ;)

  • Johnandchristo

    La, click on discussion, then recent.

  • Toxed2loss

    Hi LA,
    Try expanding the discussions button, and choosing “newest” a couple of times. That might fix it. If not, use the grey box and let Disqus know about your issue. They even are trouble shooting according to browser type. :-)

  • LA

    There is something wrong with the comments – they are showing recent comments and have them listed as 2 yrs ago – when you know it was only about 2 hours ago. Any once else once it on the comments??

  • Toxed2loss

    Nice pics Hounddogmom! Here’s a link to my assumed “fat slovenly couch potato,” Rosie (TIC)
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=376801745705850&set=a.339473412772017.90869.251509178235108&type=3

  • hounddogmom12

    Hi Jess,

    Just so you know I get up at 5 am every morning and walk my two dogs 5
    miles. After dinner we go for another 5 mile walk for a total of 10
    miles a day. I also have a big fenced in yard with a dog door so they
    can go in and out as they please. My dogs and I included are both very
    fit. I don’t know how you could create a judgment of the activity level
    of someone and their dogs because they post on an internet site? I go on
    the computer for several short periods of time throughout the day, I’m
    rarely on more than 15 minutes at a time.

    Just for kicks…here’s some pictures of my fat dogs that I don’t exercise. ;)

    http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u465/hounddogmom12/new.jpg

    http://i1069.photobucket.com/albums/u465/hounddogmom12/011.jpg

  • Shawna

    Who the h–l are you to judge others and assume you know them because of their Internet habits?

    I rarely get mad, but you Jess are offensive.

    By the way, I get paid to give dog nutrition classes and private consultations.

  • Toxed2loss

    Jess,
    I’m on here all day because I’m severely and multiply disabled. Many times so ill that I’m grounded to this chair and my iPad. I think you are assuming that I am an Internet junkie and lazy, and I find that offensive. Many of the other people that are on a lot, are also not what you assume. They do work and play with their dogs a lot as well. (which I also do, even from my chair…) not everybody on the net is like that uncaring mom… :-}

  • Jess

    I understand quite well. I feel that many posters here, you included, should be out exercising with their dogs more, not sitting in chair looking at a computer screen. I used to coach little league and many of the mom’s that didn’t work were never at practice and the games, why, because some of those moms were to busy on the internet. I had one boy for 2 years and I never once saw or met his mom. I look here and see the same people posting all day long and I just wonder what their dogs look like. I also understand a lot of people need help with dog food, but this place moves so fast I doubt many people in need of help can really get it, because of all the small talk. Sorry to vent, but sometimes it gets to me.

  • hounddogmom12

    Hey Jess,

    I was just trying to make you understand, not argue with you. :)

  • Jess

    hounddogmom12, to be honest, I really don’t look at dog food in percents of fat vs percents of carbs vs calories vs the moon and so on. Because the activity level can’t be measured by PERCENTS so they mean nothing to me. I don’t even bother with that in my own diet. Dude you got way to much time on your hands, you need to go throw the ball for your dog. LOL, then go measure how many calories, carbs and fat he needs after 20 minutes. To be truthful your post is down right ridiculous….

  • melissa

    Jess-

    not all dogs can eat foods with higher fat levels and end up with stomach/instestinal issues-hence what most people refer to as “too rich”. Just because a dog can not handle fat levels of 17% or more does not mean the owner is cheap, lol

  • hounddogmom12

    Hi Jess,

    You really are missing the point and I think this may help you understand. As stated previously, the ideal fat/protein/carbohydrate distribution is 49% of calories from protein, 44% from fat, 6% from carbohydrates (if you need proof of this go to seespotlivelonger.com). This distribution of protein, fat, and carbohydrates is ideal for every dog – both active and inactive. When speaking of the differences in food intake between an active dog that requires, say, 2,000 calories a day and an inactive dog that requires, say, 1,000 calories a day the only change should be the total number of calories, not the distribution of % of calories from protein, % from fat, or % from carbohydrates. To demonstrate mathematically using the ideal percentages stated, the active dog would require 980 calories a day from protein (2,000*0.49), 880 calories from fat (2,000*0.44), and 120 calories a day from carbohydrates (2,000*0.06). The inactive dog would require 490 calories a day from protein (1,000*0.49), 440 calories a day from fat (1,000*0.44), and 60 calories a day from carbohydrates (1,000*0.06). As you can see the inactive dog will be eating less calories from fat per day than the active dog but 44% of the dog’s total caloric intake will still be derived from fat. What you need to remember is, in terms of energy, a calorie is a calorie. A deficit of 3,500 calories results in a loss of one pound of body weight – it doesn’t matter if the calories are cut from protein, fat, or carbohydrates. Just because an inactive dog requires less calories does not mean that the inactive dog should consume the calories it does require in different proportions than the active dog, inactive dogs and active dogs both have the same nutritional requirements one just requires more energy (calories) than the other. Hope that helps you understand. :)

  • Jess

    Shawna, give me the link where she says 30% FAT is good for a couch potato dog!!! Meat protein is great, why do you think I fed Orijen and add meat to my dogs diet. She is talking about MUSCLE MEAT PROTEIN, NOT FAT!!! MOISTURE DOES NOT MEAN FAT. She says “healthy fats” hummm, I believe that is the amount of fat a dog can utilize, couch potato dogs use very little  O.K., I am done with this subject… And Tony is getting mad, lol.

  • Shawna

    Jess ~~ Even the author of the Dog Food Project website agrees with us.

    “Dogs are animals with a carnivorous background, meant to live on a diet of predominantly meat and fat, with a natural moisture content of about 65-75%. The natural diet of a canine, which its digestive system is adapted to, also contains only small amounts of carbohydrates…..

    I have found that a higher protein content of the diet, along with moderate amounts of high-quality, healthy fats and a low percentage of simple carbohydrates is more conductive to weight loss than the traditional reducing foods.”  http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=canine_obesity

  • Toxed2loss

    Jess,
    Didn’t you see my post right below yours, that was to aimee? I reiterated the bacon feeding trial was “just for giggles.” don’t you think that’s funny (because, come on, feeding bacon?!)? Well I did.

    Any way did you also miss where I said we all recognize, and have admitted that excess fat is harmful? (that’s a bit amplified) There’s no need to get testy. It was meant to lighten the mood. I’m sorry if you took it seriously. :-(

  • Jess

    Toxed2loss, That’s fine, but what they aren’t telling you is 1. How much they are feeding. 2. How much activity these dogs are getting. 3. What do they consider fat in dogs. Oh well, fed your dog all the fat you wish, but mine is gonna be kept as low as possible. But then again Tony is very active and he is no fat overweight couch potato.

    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=badingredients

  • Toxed2loss

    Morning aimee!

    You did get the “just for giggles comment?” All of us agree that excessive fat isn’t good. I thought the bacon feeding trial was funny.  

    I do note the bacon was in addition to the “chow.” So seriously, Chow having a high carb level, which leads to insulin spikes, and insulin converts glucose,sucrose and fructose to fat and stores it, and fat digesting slower, for a steadier energy supply, I can see why excess fat in combo with carbs leads to weight gain. Can you?

    References

    Nutrition for Health, Glycemic and Insulinemic Responses after Ingestion of Commercial Foods in Healthy Dogs: Influence of Food Composition1,2 Patrick Nguyen,3 Henri Dumon, Vincent Biourge* and Etienne Pouteau Department of Nutrition, E´cole Nationale Ve´te´rinaire de Nantes, 44307 Nantes Cedex 03, France and *Royal Canin Research Centre, 56007 Vannes Cedex, FranceGulliford, M. C., Bicknell, E. J. & Scarpello, J. H. (1989) 

    Differential effect of protein and fat ingestion on blood glucose responses to high- and low- glycemic-index carbohydrates in non-insulin-dependent diabetic subjects. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 50: 773–777. Holste, L. C., Nelson, R. W., Feldman, E. C. & Bottoms, G. D. (1989) 

    Effect of dry, soft moist, and canned dog foods on postprandial blood glucose and insulin concentrations in healthy dogs. Am. J. Vet. Res. 50: 984 –989.

    WALTHAM International Science Symposium: Nature, Nurture, and the Case for Nutrition Canine and Feline Diabetes Mellitus: Nature or Nurture?1 Jacquie S. Rand,2 Linda M. Fleeman, Heidi A. Farrow, Delisa J. Appleton, and Rose Lederer Centre for Companion Animal Health, School of Veterinary Science, The University of Queensland, Brisbane 4072, Australia

    Influence of obesity on plasma lipid and lipoprotein concentrations in dogs Isabelle C. Jeusette, DVM; Estelle T. Lhoest, DVM; Louis P Istasse, DVM, PhD,  Marianne O. Diez, DVM, PhD

    Fructose, weight gain, and the insulin resistance syndrome1–3 Sharon S Elliott, Nancy L Keim, Judith S Stern, Karen Teff, and Peter J Havel, the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition

  • aimee

    The researchers were looking for the signals responsible for the increased
    insulin levels when in an insulin resistant state.

    To do this they increased the fat level in the food to increase the central
    fat accumulation in the dog and cause insulin resistance. This is known as the
    “fat fed dog model”

    “We previously developed a canine model of central obesity and insulin
    resistance by supplementing the normal chow diet with 2 g cooked bacon grease/kg
    body weight.”

    This is from another study and more thoroughly explains the fat fed model. The
    base diet had
    37.9% of the calories from carbohydrate, 26.3% from
    protein, and 35.8% from fat.

    After a period of acclimation the proportion of calories in the diet was
    changed to 32.9% from carbohydrate, 22.9% from protein, and 44.3% fat.”the isocaloric moderate-fat diet resulted in a substantial increase in percent body fat at weeks 6and 12 without a significant change in body weight”http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/292/6/E1581.full.pdfThe fat fed dog model supports the concept that increased fat levels in the diet result in increased percentage of body fat on the dog.From Applied Veterinary Clinical Nutrition,  Fascetti and Delaney, pg 129 ”Dietary fat is very readily absorbed and converted more efficiently into body fat than dietary carbohydrates or proteins…”  This statment was based on Romsos work.  It’s a good read! ”the isocaloric moderate-fat diet resulted in a substantial increase in percent body fat at weeks 6and 12 without a significant change in body weight”http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/292/6/E1581.full.pdfThe fat fed dog model supports the concept that increased fat levels in the diet result in increased percentage of body fat on the dog.From Applied Veterinary Clinical Nutrition,  Fascetti and Delaney, pg 129 ”Dietary fat is very readily absorbed and converted more efficiently into body fat than dietary carbohydrates or proteins…”  This statment was based on Romsos work.  It’s a good read!  

  • Toxed2loss

    Hi Jess, 
    Just for giggles, here’s a excerpt from a research paper that looked at high fat diets. It found that the dogs actually didn’t have the expected increases in plasma lipids, and associated fat accumulation as expected. Bolding mine

    “Elevated Glucagon-Like Peptide-1-(7–36)-Amide, but Not Glucose, Associated with Hyperinsulinemic Compensation for Fat Feeding
    GREGG W. VAN CITTERS, MORVARID KABIR, STELLA P. KIM, STEVEN D. MITTELMAN, MELVIN K. DEA, PATRICIA L. BRUBAKER, AND RICHARD N. BERGMAN
    Department of Physiology and Biophysics (G.W.V.C., M.K., S.P.K., S.D.M., M.K.D., R.N.B.), Keck School of Medicine, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California 90089-9142; and Department of Physiology (P.L.B.), University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, M5S 1A8 Canada

    “We previously developed a canine model of central obesity and insulin resistance by supplementing the normal chow diet with 2 g cooked bacon grease/kg body weight. Dogs fed this fatty diet maintained glucose tolerance with compensatory hyperinsulinemia. The signal(s) responsible for this up-regulation of plasma insulin is unknown. We hypothesized that meal-derived factors such as glucose, fatty acids, or incretin hormones may signal b-cell compensation in the fat-fed dog. We fed the same fat-supplemented diet for 12 wk to six dogs and compared metabolic responses with seven control dogs fed a normal diet. Fasting and stimulated fatty acid and glucose-dependent insulinotropic peptide concentrations were not increased by fat feeding, whereas glucose was paradoxically decreased, ruling out those three factors as signals for compensatory hyperinsulinemia.

  • Dog Food Ninja

    They are all right about bone marrow… It’s something to keep in mind with human evolutionary diets as well. As a matter of fact, some of the earliest “tools” archeologists have noted in prehuman species were sticks used to scrape marrow from scavenger bones. This highly fatty tissue may have helped spur our brain development and actually attempt to hunt larger animals in our early insectivore relatives. Fat and protein are essential, let’s not forget. Carbs are a sugar shot that our and our dog’s ancestors would have rarely come across.

  • Addie

    Thanks, Shawna! I’ve seen somewhere that two ounces of beef marrow contains 502 calories, and 54 grams of fat. Definitely not a component to be overlooked. 

    I can’t even imagine how someone gets a pom up to 29 pounds!! Poor girl! Glad she ended up with you though, and not someone who would have put her on Science Diet Light ;)

  • doggonefedup

     Jess while it is true that the muscle meat of “wild” animals is very lean you must take into consideration the very high fat content of organ meats. Liver kidneys brain etc.
    Now as far as diets, the Atkins approach to diet works equally well on dogs. low carb high protein moderate to high fats… the absence of carbs forces the body to burn fat.

  • Shawna

    Thanks Labs ~~ :)   She was actually so obese our vet suggested NOT to try to exercise her as vet was concerned about her heart.  Then as she lost enough to be able to handle walks —– we had lots of snow on the ground and miserable temperatures….  She’s a REALLY smart dog..  The extent of her exercising was to help hubby pick up sticks ;) ..  She would pick one up and carry it over to the trash can.  Pick up another and do the same then take a 10 minute break and then start over……One stick, second stick, break etc…  I think the first time she helped hubby pick up sticks is when she unofficially went from foster to forever dog… :)   At least in hubby’s eyes..

    She was a good sport with the hat and picture taking :) ..

    Addie ~~ good point on the marrow!!!! :)

  • LabsRawesome

     WOW Shawna, great job with Mimi. Love the hat. lol :)

  • Addie

    Jess, you’re also not taking bone marrow into account when you consider fat percentages. Marrow is incredibly high in fat, and wolves naturally choose to eat the bones with more marrow first. 

  • Shawna

    Before and after pictures of Mimi if you are interested :)

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-feeding-tips/dog-lose-weight/#comment-390244318

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I also use higher protein and regular/moderate fat food (kibble and raw) to take weight off of pugs. They’re professional loungers.

  • hounddogmom12

    Jess, there is a reason why most low fat formulas receive a lower rating than the regular formulas within the same brand. Maybe you should read “Unlocking the Canine Ancestral Diet” by Steve Brown. It outlines all the ideal fat, protein, and carb percentages dogs should eat and is modeled after the diet of wolves – 49% of calories from protein, 44% from fat, 6% from carbs. How much weight you gain is solely based on how many calories are consumed and how many calories are burned. :)

  • Shawna

    On ounce of venison, per nutrition data dot com, has 6 grams of protein and 2 grams of fat.  Six grams of protein at 4 calories per gram equals 24 calories.  Two grams of fat at 9 calories per gram equals 18 calories..  That is the muscle meat.  When you add it organs the fat is upped just a bit..  Fat was and is a dominating macronutrient in the diet.  Carbs are not.

    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/lamb-veal-and-game-products/4812/2

  • Shawna

    Carbs are actually not good for overweight dogs :) ..  Carbs convert to fat, after glycogen needs have been met, via the liver. 

    Yes, too much fat in any diet is not good but I have living proof that higher protein and moderate fat but lower carb can very effectively take weight off an OBESE dog.

    Mimi came in weighing 29 pounds.  She is a Papillon.  I put her on a high protein (which is higher in fat then any kibble) and low carb diet.  In about six months she went from 29 pounds to 14 pounds..  She was not able to excersize during most of that time as well.

  • Jess

    Labs, I really doubt that, what the dogs were feeding on back in the day contained 30% fat, NO WAY. These were wild animals that contained very little fat. Why do you think they say to fed your dog muscle meat?? It’s because of the lack of fat!!

    Where in world are you coming up with all these false statements about fat. Now, you are talking about cancer and not the fat couch potato dog that, can not burn off the extra fat, so just like humans (in this case) it stays in a fatty form. You will never get me to believe different.

    Just give me one legit link stating “”30%”" fat is good for a couch potato dog. Your not gonna find one and you won’t find a dog nutritionist that agrees with that claim. Sorry but you are spreading totally false information. Now sled and extremely active dogs could utilize it.  

  • LabsRawesome

     Hey Jess, I’m sure you know this. The dog’s ancestral diet is 56% protein 30% fat 14% carbohydrate. Too many Carbohydrates & overeating in general will make the dog fat.  :)

  • hounddogmom12

    Calories in calories out. Fat content has nothing to do with being overweight.

  • Toxed2loss

    Hi Jess,
    Actually Hounddogmom is right. It requires the essential fatty acids in animal fat to convert and burn stored fat. Fat is also a major component of brain tissue. If you cut the fat in the diet, it interferes with cognitive ability, heart health, hormone balance… All kinds of necessary core functions. It even leads to compromised immune system function. So don’t cut fat. Keep the proportions balanced and cut carbs. :-)

  • Jess

     Boy, I “”can’t disagree with you more”". Yes, meat protein should always be in a dogs diet. But, fat is not good for overweight dogs, PERIOD!!. I have no idea where you would come up with that idea. Did you know that for every one pound a dog is over weight, it is equal to a human, being 8 pounds over weight. And little dogs it is even more. That came straight from my vet.

    Labs, spoiled is a better word. Ya, his coat is awesome, especially for a G.S.D. I get lots of comments, on his coat and a ton of questions on what  I fed.

  • hounddogmom12

    Actually Jess, the idea that couch potato dogs need to consume a lower percentage of calories from fat is a common misconception. All dogs should consumer a diet high in protein, moderately high in fat, and low in carbohydrates (the only exception to this would be a dog with a specific health issue such as pancreatitis). Dogs that are inactive just require less calories total, but the total amount should still be in the same proportions of %from protein, %from fat, and %from carbs as an active dog would eat. This myth arises from the fact that fat is more dense in calories (9 per gram) than protein and carbohydrates (4 per gram).

  • LabsRawesome

     I don’t know, Jess. But Tony sure looks great. Must be the Orijen. He looks so comfy, on your bed. You take such great care of him.  :)

  • Shawna

    I’ve also heard people suggest a food is “too rich” when referring to the overall protein and fat.

  • Jess

    Fat%”s, really only matters if you have a couch potato dog. With a dog like mine, meaning very active, it really doesn’t matter. I would be more concerned about tomato pomace, barley, sodium selenite and millet. I have never figured out what people mean by rich, I feel it is just an excuse to buy cheap CRUMMY dog food.

  • Shawna

    Another good post hounddogmom!!

    I will clarify for some that may not know — the 44% fat referred to is meaning percent of “calories” in the food while the 14% referred to is amount (as compared to protein/carbs/moisture etc) in food not calories.

  • jess L.

    Wellness is pretty low in fat, so i don’t think people mean the fat when they speak of wellness. It’s weird.

  • hounddogmom12

    People say “too rich” in reference to a food having too much fat. But in my opinion the high quality kibbles people refer to as “too rich” are actually no where near the fat level a dog should be eating. Ideally a dog’s diet should be roughly 49% protein, 44% fat, and 6% carbohydrate. 15% fat is about about 1/3 of what a dog should eat. I model my dogs’ diet after these percentages and they have no issues with consuming fat levels over 40%.

  • jess L.

    What do people mean when they say Wellness is too rich? I ask because everything about the small breed food seems perfect, and my dog was at another dog’s house and gobbled up the other dog’s wellness, so to me he clearly liked it a lot. The ingredients seem perfect but i’m concerned about this “very rich”, thing i have heard from many on msg boards and even from assistants in stores…

    Small breed Super5mix:
    Deboned Turkey, Chicken Meal, Salmon Meal, Oatmeal, Ground Brown Rice, Ground Barley, Rye Flour, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a natural source of Vitamin E), Menhaden Fish Meal, Tomato Pomace, Natural Chicken Flavor, Pea Fiber, Tomatoes, Salmon Oil, Ground Flaxseed, Carrots, Spinach, Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries

    Protein (min.) 28.0%, Fat (min.) 15.0%, Fiber (max.) 4.0%, Moisture (max.) 11.0%

  • Shawne66

     REALLY????? WHY????

  • Shawne66

     you can go to petco.com and read all about this food and see numerous customer reviews about & order it…If you have a petco close by, great! Cause if your dog don’t like or adjust to the new food you can return the unused portion for a full refund and try something else…But I really think the
    ‘Wellness Super5mix Adult Health Small Breed Formula Dry Dog Food’ is a good one to try> Also feed the food moistened/softened with a lil warm water sometimes, good for em and they like it that way sometimes..Best wishes with your baby> I went thru this last yr with mine and after going thru MANY dog food brands made a final switch in their food and they are doing GREAT now…best wishes

  • Shawne66

     If I were you I would try the >>
    Wellness Super5mix Adult Health Small Breed Formula Dry Dog Food>>> It is just for small breeds and it is a small triangle shaped kibble..

  • Shawne66

     Hello, why don’t you try the ‘Wellness Small Breed’ in the red bag..My daughter feeds her pom and shih tzu that and they love it and have no problems…I feed my  shih tzu and Chi ‘Solid Gold Just a WEE Bits’ they love it…I moisten it with warm water sometimes to.. To me it sounds like it could be the food…What ever you do gradually change over his food if you switch..