Solid Gold Barking at the Moon (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★★

Solid Gold Barking at the Moon Dog Food receives the Advisor’s top rating of 5 stars.

The Solid Gold Barking at the Moon product line includes one dry dog food, a recipe claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for adult maintenance.

Solid Gold Barking at the Moon

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 46% | Fat = 22% | Carbs = 24%

Ingredients: Ocean fish meal, beef, potatoes, pea protein, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), dried eggs, peas, tomato pomace, natural flavor, potassium chloride, choline chloride, salmon oil (source of DHA), dried chicory root, taurine, parsley flakes, pumpkin meal, almond oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), sesame oil (preserved by mixed tocopherols), Yucca schidigera extract, thyme, blueberries, cranberries, carrots, broccoli, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, niacin, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), thiamine mononitrate, manganese sulfate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, calcium iodate, cobalt carbonate, folic acid, sodium selenite, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, rosemary extract

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.4%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis41%20%NA
Dry Matter Basis46%22%24%
Calorie Weighted Basis37%44%20%

The first ingredient in this dog food is fish meal. Because it is considered a meat concentrate, fish meal contains almost 300% more protein than fresh fish itself.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

Unfortunately, this particular item is anonymous. Because various fish contain different types of fats, we would have preferred to have known the source species.

The second ingredient is beef. Although it’s a quality item, raw beef contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The third ingredient is potato. Potatoes can be considered a gluten-free source of digestible carbohydrates. Yet with the exception of perhaps their caloric content, potatoes are of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The fourth ingredient is pea protein, what remains of a pea after removing the starchy part of the vegetable.

Even though it contains over 80% protein, this ingredient would be expected to have a lower biological value than meat.

And less costly plant-based products like this can notably boost the total protein reported on the label — a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The fifth ingredient is canola oil. Unfortunately, canola can be a controversial item. That’s because it can sometimes (but not always) be derived from genetically modified rapeseed.

Yet others cite the fact canola oil can be a significant source of essential omega-3 fatty acids.

In any case, plant-based oils like canola are less biologically available to a dog than fish oil as a source of quality omega-3 fats.

The sixth ingredient is dried egg, a dehydrated powder made from shell-free eggs. Eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The seventh ingredient includes peas. Peas are a quality source of carbohydrates. And like all legumes, they’re rich in natural fiber.

However, peas contain about 25% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The eighth ingredient is tomato pomace. Tomato pomace is a controversial ingredient, a by-product remaining after processing tomatoes into juice, soup and ketchup.

Many praise tomato pomace for its high fiber and nutrient content, while others scorn it as an inexpensive pet food filler.

Just the same, there’s probably not enough tomato pomace here to make much of a difference.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, chicory root is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

Next, salmon oil is naturally rich in the prized EPA and DHA type of omega-3 fatty acids. These two high quality fats boast the highest bio-availability to dogs and humans.

Depending on its level of freshness and purity, salmon oil should be considered a commendable addition.

And lastly, this food also contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Solid Gold Barking at the Moon Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Solid Gold Barking at the Moon looks like an above-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 46%, a fat level of 22% and estimated carbohydrates of about 24%.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 49%.

Above-average protein. Above-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the pea protein and peas, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a significant amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Solid Gold Barking at the Moon is a grain-free meat-based kibble using a significant amount of ocean fish meal and beef as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 5 stars.

Recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

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Notes and Updates

08/29/2014 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  • Hound Dog Mom

    They refused to disclose the information to me when I called them and asked. All I can go off is what they tell me (or, in this case, don’t tell me).

  • GSDsForever

    It is manufactured at Southern Tier facility in New York. Information sources: Timberwolf and distributors

  • Betsy Greer

    LOL!!

    As you said, “Fiber normalizes intestinal water content.”

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Oh man. I don’t even know what to say – just lol. :)

    As stated in my op – capability of absorbing moisture and adding them to the stool thus aiding in creating a looser stool for those suffering from constipation.

  • Nathan

    Yes, it does work for both, if the problem can be treated by soluble fiber. Never said it doesn’t. What I said is that it doesn’t add moisture. It helps constipation by taking moisture out of your body (can cause dehydration, constipation and compaction when not administered properly and not taken with enough water). It helps diarrhea by adding bulk and absorbing the excess water. Still, it needs to be administered properly or it can cause more diarrhea, bad digestion pains, or even constipation too.

    The only thing that actually adds more moisture is more water along with fiber.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    BTW – Metamucil is commonly used for both diarrhea and constipation.

    Drug Facts:

    [http://www.drugs.com/mtm/metamucil.html]

    “Psyllium is used to treat occasional constipation or bowel irregularity. Psyllium may also be used to treat diarrhea.”

    Also notice this response given by Dr. Gallant – a board certified physician:

    Q: “Can I take metamucil for diarrhea?”

    A: “Yes. It can help with both diarrhea and constipation by adding bulk to stool.”

    [https://www.healthtap.com/topics/will-metamucil-help-diarrhea]

  • Nathan

    I knew who you were responding to. But they were responding to the post I quoted. It’s a continual discussion. That’s how comment trees work. You really should pay attention next time.

    If someone came reading these comments like I did and they were less knowledgeable, your advice could cause harm to an animal. I doubt you’d want that on your conscience.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Just a tip – before you respond to a post you can read who the post was in response to in the top corner. If you view my post you’ll see that I was responding to a use named “Emma.” Therefore, your response to me really had no application to my op. :)

  • Nathan

    You really should read the entire branch of a tree you are posting a response to.

    The original question of this branch was: “Since switching from Purina Puppy Chow Complete to SG Barking at the Moon, my boxer/lab mix hasn’t had a regular poop. I started supplementing his food with metamucil to give him extra fiber, but his stools are still loose. Anyone else have this problem?”

    In this context, your original post seems to imply the original poster should increase her dose.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    “You were telling this person it was fine for them to up a dose they were already giving their dog that was not working.”

    Could you point out where I made such a recommendation? The post I responded to had no mention of metamucil or of any individual supplementing their dog’s diet with fiber. All I did was make a statement that fiber has the potential to act as both a stool softener or stool firmer in response to a poster who stated that fiber can only make stool looser.

  • Nathan

    In regards to said book. I don’t own it. Why don’t you reread it and focus on the side effects of too much fiber instead of too little. Then come preaching again.

  • Nathan

    Soluble fiber (what we are talking about in this context since the original question was in regards to Metamucil – which is nearly 100% psyllium husks) works the same in humans as it does in mammals. Excess soluble fiber is most definitely not good for you. It will cause constipation and can lead to the other problems I mentioned.

    Check out this and the other link I posted:
    http://www.healthyeatingstartshere.com/nutrition/soluble-fiber-vs-insoluble-fiber

    Still don’t believe me? Ask your doctor if too much soluble fiber can plug you up. Sure, some is okay. I never said or insinuated that wasn’t the case. A fair amount is actually recommended and necessary. But you were telling this person it was fine for them to up a dose they were already giving their dog that was not working.

    When crap gets blocked up, big problems can arise. Recommending someone to give their dog more soluble fiber is not good advice unless you yourself are a veterinarian AND you yourself have seen the dog FIRST HAND.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Nathan –

    The information posted above came directly from the veterinary text Small Animal Clinical Nutrition (page 44 of the 4th edition if you’re so inclined). Should I have reason to believe that you know something about the effects of fiber that the board certified veterinary nutritionists who wrote the textbook do not?

  • Nathan
  • Crazy4cats

    That doesn’t even make sense because Metamucil is a bulk forming supplement typically given for constipation. Too much will not cause constipation. In fact may do the opposite.

  • Nathan

    Fiber will not add moisture. Soluble fiber (what Metamucil is) will firm and harden stools and too much will cause constipation and compaction which can lead to surgery and even death in rare cases. Insoluble fiber adds bulk and is what should be used for diarrhea. Neither add moisture though. You are just flat wrong there.

  • Teddy’s mom

    Have you thought about the grain free taste of the wild? Yes it’s a 4 star food and we love it. My dog has stopped itching, red eyes no more and the lamb we have has no chicken, turkey meat or meal in it. Our vet said a lot of dogs are allergic to chicken and it’s amazing when you start researching how many dry and wet foods contain some form of poultry. I’d pay top dollar for my dogs food and TOTW is by far the least expensive we have tried and the happiest we and our pooch has been.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Emma –

    Fiber can actually act as a stool softener or a stool firmer. Fiber normalizes intestinal water content. So in the case of a dog with diarrhea, extra fiber will absorb excess moisture and help to firm the stool and in the case of constipation fiber will add moisture and loosen the stool.

  • Emma

    More fiber will make his stool looser, not firmer.

  • Kim

    I switched him very gradually over 2 weeks. He is 11 months. I’m actually in the process of switching him back to the Purina. He was having 3-4 bm irregularly (compared to 2 bm on Purina) throughout the day on Barking at the Moon and it was causing him to have accidents in his kennel. For re-house training purposes, I’m switching him back temporarily until I’m confident that he knows to hold his poop until I take him out. Perhaps it was too soon to switch him to the adult food,

  • Julie

    Kate W., I agree with you about Solid Gold’s Barking at the Moon food (especially the less itchy part)! It doesn’t contain any of my dog’s triggers: poultry, lamb, soy, kelp, alfalfa. I definitely will NOT ever again add Solid Gold’s Seameal Supplement to any dog food, that stuff gave my dog a MEGA ear infection! But, I highly recommend the Barking at the Moon dry dog food. And, my dog is not a working dog either, she’s our family pet. So happy this food is rated 5 * too!

  • Maira

    Hey Kim a couple questions, how did you do the switch? Had you mixed the two foods over time? Also, how old is your pup? Sometimes when a food is too high in protein or if the switch is quick/drastic the pups get digestion trouble like loose or difficult to pass stool.

  • Kate W.

    I had been feeding my pup Solid Gold’s MMillennia, which is a very good food, but it turns out that my girl has grain allergies. We like the Solid Gold brand so much and have had such good luck with their products that I found and have switched my girl to the Barking at the Moon line. She’s doing very well, less itchy, good stools and she loves the food and eats it right up.

  • Kim

    Since switching from Purina Puppy Chow Complete to SG Barking at the Moon, my boxer/lab mix hasn’t had a regular poop. I started supplementing his food with metamucil to give him extra fiber, but his stools are still loose. Anyone else have this problem?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Try asking them where it’s manufactured.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I don’t like their Wolfcub formula (too low in protein) and manufactured by Diamond, but that’s not the reason I said it. The WolfCub formula is too high in calcium for a large breed puppy. Many foods labeled for large breed puppies aren’t actually appropriate and, conversely, many that aren’t are appropriate. It’s important to check the calcium levels.

  • Angie Hendrickson

    Well, he is a collie/lab mix, with possibly a little pitpull mixed in but we aren’t sure on that part. That’s medium large. He’s now 4 1/2 months. Maybe I will consider some of their other formulas. I just now read all about the recommended calcium levels for large breeds. I love learning from you guys. :) Thank you. Scratch the Elk then, their black forest formula contains free range venison, and is lower in calcium (1.2%), and protein. Which sounds better suited for his size perhaps. Whichever formula i go with, I am extremely excited. I think their company appears to be very sound. And patty, I will definitely let you know how he does and the results I see.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I guess it matters on how the “expert” meant it whether I agree with him or not. It is not marketing that large breed puppies have special needs. That is a proven scientific fact. Large breed puppy labeling is marketing, especially when the food is NOT appropriate for large breed puppies, which most of them aren’t. Did you ask about calcium levels for the food? You have to specifically ask about as fed levels or they give you minimums instead. Of course if this food is on Hound Dog Mom’s list then she already checked calcium levels for you. Let us know how you like it, I’ve been curious about it myself.

  • Storm’s Mom

    I agree that some companies put “large breed puppy” on their food when it’s not nutritionally appropriate for a large breed puppy. The calcium level and calcium/phosphorous ratio thing is pretty accepted, though, based on research and science. I looked at the Elk formula (which you mentioned elsewhere as the one you are looking to go with, I believe), and it’s 1.75% calcium …waaaaay too high for a large breed puppy.

  • Angie Hendrickson

    It’s because of them not moving away from Diamond that I’m dropping Wolf cub after this bag is done. I

  • Angie Hendrickson

    I just heard from an expert that most of the whole ‘large breed puppy’ thing is for marketing purposes only. But, I decided (after researching foods for over a month), that I’m going to go with Timberwolf. I think it’s the most impressive list of ingredients I’ve seen so far, and the customer service was outstanding. Asked a lot of questions and I feel confident their food is genuine.

  • Angie Hendrickson

    =) Btw, I decided to go with Timberwolf. If they really put in their food what they say they do, then it looks like hands down one of the most impressive list of ingrediants I’ve seen. Talked to a representative over there and was really impressed with how well they answered all my questions and it was great customer service.

  • Pattyvaughn

    He does have a pretty face and he is really serious about his job. He’s really a great dog, but he has too many food related health issues, that’s why I said he needs to remain one of a kind.

  • Storm’s Mom

    It may *say* it’s for Large Breed Puppies, but the nutritional analysis numbers – particular the amount of calcium in the food – say otherwise. With a max of 1.5% calcium, It’s too high in calcium for a large breed puppy. Should be no more than 1.3% or 3.5g/1000kcal (not sure how many gr/kcal the Wolf Cub is, but likely far too high).

  • Angie Hendrickson

    I can see that. Beautiful little face from what I can see in your avatar. And glad I mis-read the sarcasm. LOL. :) So easy to read text wrong when you can’t hear some one’s voice. :)

  • Angie Hendrickson

    Are you saying that because you don’t ‘like’ Their wolf cub food? Or you just didn’t know that wolf cub actually was large breed puppy food? Only asking because I was confused with your reply. It actually in fact is formulated for Large Breed Puppies. I buy it because the list of ingredients is outstanding. I only question how authentic the formula is because of Diamond making it. It’s sad I have to consider choosing something else because of their reputation and I don’t want to find it back on the recall list because I didn’t switch now. He does so well on it. I’ve been researching large breed puppy varieties for a while, but just wanted some opinions from other people on what they personally like. Thank you for the link Hound mom!

  • Pattyvaughn

    LOL!!! Not offended at all!! It just struck my funny bone. I am known for having a weird sense of humor. I’m glad I can help! And I hope no one else has a dog quite like Micah, he needs to stay one of a kind.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Solid Gold doesn’t make any formulas appropriate for large or giant breed growth. Here’s a list of 4 and 5 star foods appropriate for large and giant breed growth: https://docs.google.com/a/dogfoodadvisor.com/file/d/0BwApI_dhlbnFTXhUdi1KazFzSUk/edit

  • Angie Hendrickson

    Sorry Patty, I wasn’t trying to offend you. I was actually under the impression that the woman who recommended this website to me (A pet supplies owner in town) was a co-creator of this website, possibly. And seeing as your avatar looks an awful lot like the puppy she keeps in her shop, and the fact you normally reply and help out 100% of every one on these boards on almost every dog food I click on – I thought, huh, maybe that’s her? Again, wasn’t trying to be offensive or seem stupid. On the contrary, I’m very thankful you seem to be the one person always trying to help every one better understand how to think of dog food.

  • Angie Hendrickson

    Great to know. Do you think any of those would be ok for a large breed puppy? Or do I need to switch to something else that supports large breed puppies?

  • Angie Hendrickson

    Thank you Patty.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Solid Gold has a few formulas that aren’t made by Diamond: Barking at the Moon, Sun Dancer, Holistique Blends and MMillennia. Sun Dancer and Barking at the Moon are both great foods – their two best formulas in my opinion.

  • luckydog

    Thanks pattyvaughn!

  • Pattyvaughn

    The review is combined with a few others here

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/solid-gold-dog-food-dry/

    I always felt that if they cared what their customers thought they would have moved away from Diamond.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Really, do you know the names of pet store owners all over the country? No, but I was a Veterinary Technician, years ago. And in my area everybody knows a Patty Vaughn, there are at least 3 in one of the nearby cities, not related in any way that we can tell except extremely distantly. It’s kind of funny how we think our name uniquely identifies us, but unless you have a very uncommon name there are likely to be many people by your name.

  • Angie Hendrickson

    I cannot find a page dedicated to what I feed my puppy: Solid Gold Wolf Cub Large Breed puppy Dry food.. Any way, my little border collie/lab mix has done amazing on this since day one. But I’ve been considering switching because of Diamond’s terrible reputation. It seems like everything they touch gets recalled at least once a year (maybe that’s an exaggeration). Does any one know if Solid Gold has ever made a statement about whether or not they trust Diamond, how they feel about the recalls from last summer, and why they are continuing to let them make their food? Does any one know how often they actually test the food to see if all these lovely ingredients (bundled with vegetables/fruits/berries/herbs), is TRULY in every piece of kibble?

  • Angie Hendrickson

    Patty, do you own a pet store? I’m only asking because your name sounds familiar.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Sorry to hear about your dog. There are a lot of unknowns about what happened to your dog, but a lot of people feel that drinking excess water and foods that expand do have some impact on this. There are quite a number of things that people think contribute to this condition, but science just can’t seem to pin them down.

  • Luckydog

    Unfortunately even though I’m sure it could have happened in a different way and this is probably completely unrelated, I tried this food and that evening my coonhound had what’s called, “stomach flip” and died within 3 hours of eating. I definitely am not blaming this dog food and I’m sure it is a healthy food for most dogs, but I just want people who own dogs who are prone to “stomach flip” which are barrel-chested larger dogs to know that this food tends to swell up a lot more than some others I’ve tried in the dog’s stomach. (My dog had drank a big bowl of water earlier that night so it could have been completely from just too much water I suppose too). The nuggets are not hard and dense like some other dog foods, rather they are shaped like little pancakes and I think they just absorb a lot of water. At first my dog threw up and that’s when I noticed that the amount I fed her in volume was extremely larger when she threw it up. Again I don’t blame this dog food for her death, I just think people who have barrel chested dogs may want to test out small amounts before they go with this food.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kathi.tagliamonte Kathi Bunny Tagliamonte

    Any updates on ethoxyquin?

  • robb brush

    NO, they are beginning a NEW testing program. IT IS NOT MOVING FROM DIAMOND!

  • robb brush

    Yes, one product is manufactured there. It was part of the recall.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kendra.l.david Kendra L. David

    I contacted Solid Gold by email and this is the information I received:

    All of our formulations specify Ethoxyquin free ingredients.

    We do not add Ethoxyquin to our diets nor is the fish meal used in our formulations preserved with Ethoxyquin; the fish meal used in our diets are preserved with the natural preservative Naturox and additional Naturox or Verdilox is added to our formulations during production.

    We receive a sample of every production run that the manufacturing mill produces, each of these samples is then sent out for Ethoxyquin testing; the test results we have received show no presence of Ethoxyquin.

    The ocean fish used in all of our products is Menhaden Herring, which is caught in the Atlantic off the US coast.

    All of our product ingredients are produced and processed here in the US, with the exception of some of the lamb meal which is imported from New Zealand and Australia and our Blended Tuna products for cats which are processed in Thailand.

    The only Chinese ingredient we use is the taurine in our dry foods. Unfortunately, China makes the vast majority of feed grade taurine and we have not been able to find a non-Chinese source. Each shipment of taurine undergoes a complete toxin screen before use in our foods.

    Solid Gold Health Products for Pets, Inc.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Small short lived fish that are not bottom feeders are much safer. A lot of dog food manufactures use sardine, herring, or menhaden.

  • Tanz

    I am curious if there is any way to know what the heavy metal content is for this fish-based food. I’d love to switch to Solid Gold, but all this fish has me worried! Humans are advised to limit fish consumption to once per week, so why are our dogs eating it 24/7?

  • SG

    obviously you have not read a history book either… what’s a darwinist, by the way lol.

    homo sapiens have been around for about 150k years, whether you like it or not. read a book thats not the bible for a change.

  • Test

    not sure what history book you read but humans have not been here 200k years. Let me guess a darwinist….

    ugg

  • Shawna

    The foods we eat today are not like the foods that were grown or available wild to our ancestors.  Grains back then weren’t genetically modified and our ancestors didn’t eat them unprocessed like we do today.  Grains were sprouted, fermeneted or long soaked in an acidulated medium.

  • Guest

    Humans have only been around 200,000 years. And just because we didn’t plant and grow grains ourselves, doesn’t mean it didn’t exist and we didn’t eat it.

  • dixiesmountains

    I too had my fur baby on Blue. She never had flees but I kept seeing dry skin.I have taken her off all manufactured dog food, she has been very sick,vet bill 3000.00! and Im cooking her organic chicken,sweetpatato,carrots,green beans. no more white flakes any where! can dogs eat fresh spinach?If I cook it also?

  • Daveg

    I have a 6 year old female Boxer. I have fed her Solid Gold foods since she was a puppy. She has never had food issues. She has eaten MMillennia for years. It has been a good food for her. I have had trouble fnding the 15lb bags lately, so I tried Barking at the Moon. It is an excellent food. It is a little more expensive. But, worth it. I would feed her either formula…

  • ohnoesaz

    But not for long… Solid Gold is moving all foods made by Diamond to their other food maker of whom I forget the name…. A company in Kansas.

  • melissa

    Rdinicol-

    Just googled it-According to the list of manufacturers and wikipedia, it is made at Diamond plants

  • Ericscottjensen

    humans nor dogs were meant to eat grains.  Agriculture grain has only been around about 10,000 years while we have been on this planet for a couple million years.

  • Rdinicol

    no it isn’t

  • PoochDad

    Anybody know what the ash content is for this formula?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hi Maddie,

    I’ve never seen any scientific evidence that almonds are toxic to dogs. So, almond oil should be fine.

    Hope this helps.

  • monkey

    Hi Maddie,
    Almonds aren’t considered toxic to dogs, they just cant properly digest and break them down so whole almonds may cause gastric problems.

  • Maddie

    Hi,
     This lists Almond Oil. Aren’t Almonds toxic for dogs?

    Thanx

  • Scooter

    I have 2 boxer pups that were on Blue Buffalo Large Breed Puppy and we were having lots of gas and diarrhea issues.  I had also noticed some dandruff and dry skin.  I assumed it was due to my changing them off the brand the breeder had been feeding them and the fact that we live in a very cold climate in Minnesota.
    But by the time I had compelted the transition to ALL Blue Buffalo, my girls completely refused to touch it, wouldn’t eat a bite.
    I made a quick switch to Barking at the Moon without any transition time at all (they already had diarrhea, so why bother?).  From the first meal last month until today, the dogs LOVE it, eat every bite and are eager for more.  More importantly, even without transitioning, we haven’t had a single case of diarrhea and no more dandruff!
    Thank you Solid Gold!

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    I agree!  I love Fromm and their company, but for some reason it doesn’t work for my oldest Cavalier and my next oldest can’t do their grain free (too high fat it seems).  They’re both seniors.  Funny, though, my mixed breed that’s the same age as my oldest Cav does great on all Fromm and so does my adult Cav.  But I like to feed the same food to all, if possible, so I’m trying another food atm.  Glad Solid Gold worked for your dog! 

  • GSDobedience

    I have two German shepherds, one is 15 mths, the other 12 yrs. Solid Gold Barking at Moon has solved all of my puppy’s skin & shedding issues, his black pigment is now very shiny & rich looking again, no dandruff, scratching/biting, and extreme shedding (he had such a reaction to Fromm, we had to go to vet for medication & medicated baths).  I tried Orijen, then Timberwolf, then Fromm grain free. None of these foods worked for him. The Solid Gold barking at moon has been great for him. I mix the 1/2 Barking at Moon & 1/2 Wolf king for the 12 yr old, it works for him. You just never know what food will work your dog…all of those other foods i fed were good, but just not for him. So just because a food is rated 4 or 5 stars doesn’t mean it’s the right one for your dog.

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  • Mikah’s Mom

    I emailed Solid Gold to inquire about the calcium and phosphorus in their dry dog food. This is the email I received in response. I think it is notable that they will be changing the formulae soon:

    Thank you for contacting Solid Gold. I apologize for the delay in response. Currently, the calcium and phosphorus contents of our dry foods are as follows:
    Barking at the Moon:
    Ca – 2.4%
    P – 1.6%
    Holistique Blendz:
    Ca – 1%
    P – 0.8%
    Hundchen Flocken Puppy:
    Ca – 2.1%
    P – 1.6%
    Hund-n-Flocken:
    Ca – 1.8%
    P – 1.4%
    MMillennia:
    Ca – 2.1%
    P – 1.6%
    Just a Wee Bit:
    Ca – 2%
    P – 1.6%
    WolfCub puppy:
    Ca – 1.5%
    P – 1.2%
    WolfKing :
    Ca – 1.6%
    P – 1.2%

    We are in the process of changing many of our formulas, and the Ca and P contents of most foods will be reduced. These are the numbers for the foods on the marketplace at this time. If you would like, I can send you the Ca and P contents of the new formulas as we receive the numbers.
    Best regards,
    Solid Gold

  • Mikah’s Mom

    Thanks very much, Mike. I ended up ordering a variety of small bags of foods that I think will work, to test drive them. As good as the reviews are for the TOTW line, the calcium and phosphorus is too high for my purposes. I will be interested to know their Ca and Ph levels in the new puppy foods coming out.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Mikah’s Mom… You are correct in being concerned about calcium and phosphorus in your large breed puppy. Unfortunately, I do not track the content of these 2 minerals for the brands listed here. It’s best to simply check these nutrients on the label or the manufacturer’s posted information.

    You may wish to use our search box (using quotation marks around the phrase) for “large breed puppy”. This will give you a list of reviews that contain brands offering products of that nature. Then, look for lower calcium levels (say 1.5% or even lower, if possible) and a calcium to phosphorus ratio as close to 1:1 as you can get — certainly no greater than 2:1.

    Hope this helps.

  • Mikah’s Mom

    Mike, thanks for all the info on this site. Do you have calcium and phosphorus contents for the various foods? I’m wanting a food with higher protein and fat than I am currently feeding, but have a 9 month old large breed youngster, so the calcium content and ratio to phosphorus is something I am concerned about.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Stephanie… Unfortunately, there’s no way to know for sure by reading the label. If you see fish meal, then you should suspect it contains ethoxyquin. That is, unless you see a public statement from the manufacturer on the package or their website. Otherwise, you can sometimes check our ratings or call the company.

    By the way, I’m currently working on a short video about ethoxyquin which should be posted soon. If you’ll “Like” my Facebook page which is located here on the right sidebar, I’ll be sure to let you know as soon as it (or any future videos) are published.

  • melissa

    Isn’t Solid Gold manufactured by Diamond?

  • sandy

    I would email the company if it’s not stated anywhere on their website, FAQ pages, etc.

  • Stephanie

    I was just wondering if there is a way to tell when a dog food with fish is ethoxyquin-free, and if you know if all of Solid Gold’s dog foods are for sure ethoxyquin-free?

  • http://www.rosespetcaremiami.com Rose Kirwin

    my very fussy teacup yorkie (3.25 #) loves this. I am supposed to feed my dog grain free, but switched to this when, after 5 years, the Evo beef kibble was giving the old man (15 y.o. poodle mix) g.i. problems (diarrhea). As I use up this bag of kibble, will keep looking for a grain-free alt. for the Evo for the old man.

    Thanks for this site! Thanks to the site master and the people who contribute their experiences. :)

  • sandy

    Pinnacle Peak Protein, TOTW Pacific Stream, EVO turkey & chicken, and EVO red meat are pea free.

  • sandy

    Actually, the peas are so far down in the ingredient list behind the vitamins/minerals and probiotics/enzymes.

  • sandy

    Linda,

    Some of the Natures Variety Instinct formulas do not contain peas. Instinct is grain free.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Linda… For most dogs, this recipe change represents only a minor issue. However, if your dog is specifically allergic to peas, then it is much important for your specific pet.

    Unfortunately, due to the biological uniqueness of each pet, I cannot provide customized product comparisons or recommendations for each reader. For more help, please check out my reviews and visit our FAQ page. Look for the topic, “Help Me Choose a Dog Food”. Or check back for a possible response from one of our other readers. Wish I could be more help.

  • Linda

    Hi Mike, One of my Cairns is allergic to peas and grains. I just purchased our second bag of “Barking at the Moon”. In comparing the list of ingredients on both bags, I noticed that the original bag does not contain peas or pea protein but the new bag does–so glad I noticed before giving it to him. Have they changed the formula? Also noticed Wellness Core has recently added peas. What do you recommend?

  • Helen

    Hi. One thing I liked about the Solid Gold Company is that they use GMO free tomatoes and do not use farmed salmon which is fed GMO grains. GMO is (Genetically Modified in Origin). Genetically modified vegetables including tomatoes are found in alot of quality high grade dog foods like Blue Buffalo unless it states “organic vegetables”. I was shocked to learn this. GMO tomatoes can cause leaky gut syndrome in dogs I learned. (Ah Hah). Check out the latest “TAILS” complimentary magazine at your local pet food store. So if your dog is having GI issues on other high quality grain free diets, you might want to check out Solid Gold.

    Helen

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Juanita P… You’re right. Looks like Solid Gold did make a few (what appear to be) minor changes. I’ve updated my Barking at the Moon report. The others will all be updated soon. Thanks for the tip.

  • Juanita P

    Hi Mike… I was on Solid-golds web page today and they have changed the formula of Barking at the Moon, added pea protein and egg to the formula, do not know if this changes the ranking, just want to let everyone know they call this their new improved formula, constant changes!!!

  • Kim

    I did a careful switch to Barking at the Moon after reading several consumers’ comments here and on other sites whose experience with Blue Buffalo Wilderness sounded similar to mine. I’m feeding eight Salukis, 2 to 14 years in age, and a Chinese Crested. Some months ago, I switched to BBW because I wanted something closer to a dog’s natural diet without going totally raw again. One of my dogs became constantly gassy and had very loose stools. A vet visit and subsequent stool samples turned up no answers, so I went back to their former food but his problem continued. I was blaming myself, thinking maybe I had switched back and forth too quickly to bring such severe digestive issues on a 6 year old who never had them before. Then I read some user reviews whose dogs reacted similarly to Blue Buffalo Wilderness and who were now feeding SG Barking at the Moon with good results. I decided somewhat reluctantly to give it a try, and I’m so glad I did. We haven’t quite finished the first (33 lb.) bag yet, but everything I’m scooping in the yard looks as it should. What a relief! For me, and certainly for my poor guy who no longer has a gassy gut.

  • Kim

    I did a careful switch to Barking at the Moon after reading the experience of several users here and on other sites whose experience with Blue Buffalo Wilderness sounded similar to mine. I’m feeding eight Salukis, 2 to 14 years in age, and a Chinese Crested. Some months ago, I switched to BBW because I wanted something closer to a dog’s natural diet without going totally raw again. One of my dogs became constantly gassy and had very loose stools. A vet visit and subsequent stool samples turned up no answers, so I went back to their former food but his problem continued. I was blaming myself, thinking maybe I had switched back and forth too quickly to bring such severe digestive issues on a 6 year old who never had them before. Then I read some user reviews whose dogs reacted similarly to Blue Buffalo Wilderness and who were now feeding SG Barking at the Moon with good results. I decided somewhat reluctantly to give it a try, and I’m so glad I did. We haven’t quite finished the first (33 lb.) bag yet, but everything I’m scooping in the yard looks as it should. What a relief! For me, and certainly for my poor guy who no longer has a gassy gut.

  • Michaela

    Re: ethoxyquin, I asked Solid Gold about the presence of it (or lack thereof) in Barking at the Moon because I couldn’t find the info on the website. The response (06/25/2011):
    “All of our formulations specify Ethoxyquin free ingredients.
    We do not add Ethoxyquin to our diets nor is the fish meal used in our formulations preserved with Ethoxyquin; the fish meal used in our diets are preserved with the natural preservative Naturox and additional Naturox is added to our formulations during production.
    We receive a sample of every production run that the manufacturing mill produces, each of these samples is then sent out for Ethoxyquin testing; the test results we have received show no presence of Ethoxyquin.
    Solid Gold”
    Sounds good to me!

  • melissa

    Jake Campbell-

    Where did you get your information that this partuclar fish contains ethoxyquin? According to the reference cites, it does not..

  • Jake Campbell

    “shouldn’t”

  • Jake Campbell

    Another oddly high review:

    Ocean fish meal — unspecified fish parts preserved with ethoxyquin (aka, carcinogen).
    beef — has the same shrinkage issues as other whole meats.
    potato protein — because there likely isn’t enough animal-based protein.
    canola oil – though not nutritionally unsound, has a low smoke point and degrades rapidly under high temperatures tomato, contributing to rancidity.
    natural flavoring — more unidentified additives that should be in a well-balanced food.

  • Kathy

    I do feed a raw diet to most of my dogs, but I do have one stubborn boy that I have not been able to get to eat. I think Solid Gold Barking at the Moon is a fairly good substitute for a raw diet and he does love it, I will probably feed the Solid Gold and Innova Evo along with the raw I can convince him to eat for now. I also fed SG some before I made the switch to raw 4 years ago. For Sofie, a grain free diet is much closer to what a dog would eat in the wild and what their systems are made for, it is much healthier for them than most commercial foods that are full of so many grains and carbs. What it comes down to is their systems are not like humans.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Sofie… None of our reviews give special consideration for any products simply because they’re grain free. Although grain free dog foods do have some noteworthy benefits over grain-based dog foods, we’re more impressed with the fact this particular category typically contains more meat-based protein (and fewer carbs).

  • Sofie

    Why is “grain free supposed to be so great? Grains are good for humans, why not for canines?

  • Kerry

    I have two rescue Samoyeds, and have fed them Nature’s Recipe since they came to live with us. In March routine bloodwork showed they were slightly anemic, with no apparent cause. I read on this website that Nature’s Recipe contains an ingredient that can contribute to degradation of red blood cells. So I switched to Barking at the Moon, which they love, btw. It’s a little more pricey, but they don’t eat as much, so it’s a wash $-wise I think.
    I plan to take them back to their vet in about a month or so to have their bloodwork redone, and see if the change in food has had a good effect.

  • eileen streb

    Charr, my daughter also had a terrier mix that suffered from siezures. Her Vet advised putting him on a veg.diet as he thought that meat may be the problem. She fed him Adverderm Veg. formula and he seemed to do much better. The seizures did not stop completely but were much less frequent. He lived til 13. Adverderm no longer makes this formula but I am sure there must be other good dog food that does. Just a thought.

  • karen

    Hi Mike
    I absolutely love your website…I love how you figure out the final rating and am going to be receiving some Barking at the Moon and the Sun Dancer samples from Solid Gold…Keep up the good work.
    Karen

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Linda… Sorry to hear about your dog’s Addison’s diagnosis. Diseases involving an animal’s endocrine system can be particularly challenging. Unfortunately, since I’m not a veterinarian, it would be inappropriate for me to offer specific health advice or product recommendations.

    Please see our FAQ page and our reviews for more information. Or check back for a possible response from one of our other readers. Wish I could be more help.

  • Linda Martino

    I have a 6 yr. old male westie that was diagnosed with Addisons Disease this time last year. I have always given my 2 westies and a yorkie quality food. But, since my Tony, the westie with the addisons, is sick and I have 2 other dogs, I would like to find the best food that would be appropriate for all 3. A vet suggested I switch to grain free. I have been reading up on the 5 star foods and I am a little confused on which would be the best. Is a high protein food good for all 3 or just for Tony or for the other 2.

  • sarah

    I also wanted to comment on the “potato protein”. Plant based proteins are not complete (which means they do not contain the full amino acid profile needed by the animal). Therefore, although the potato protein is counted in total protein count of the SG food, unfortunately, your dog is not benefitting from it. This is a cheap filller ingredient that allows for a higher count when the food is analyzed for amino acids– one of the many tricks of the pet food industry. I am serious when I say that Solid Gold dry dog food is not a great food just because it is way better than Purina or Alpo.

  • sarah

    The ethoxyquin will degrade your dog’s liver over time. I think it is irresponsible for SG to advertise themselves as all natural, blah, blah. It is despicable for a company to hide their ingredients. Obviously, they know that the real information would lose them customers. I highly recommend that anyone paying premium prices for SG consider switching to a natural meat and bones diet or at least switch to a better dog food company like Champion, which makes Orijin and Acana dry foods.

  • charr

    I have used Solid Gold products for years an never had problems I started out with the Holistic that my Vet recommended for my Lab that was a diabetic. Of course I gave him all kinds of supplements also..He passed at15 pretty good for a diabetic dog..Now I have a Golden that has seizures..(I know I attract these poor babies) since I am such a animal lover..I had him on the SG. green cow (can)(it is too expensive & flock an did ok. but trying to get his weight down I have switched to Holistic again…He an my little Terrier (Terror) love it. I add chicken an veggies also with a antioxidant pill, It doesn’t stop the seizures but seem better than other dog foods I have tried an I think I have tried most..I totally stay away from Science Diet..never saw a dog that liked that cardboard taste lol. I have personally talked to the owner of SG..she is great, very helpful an knowledgeable she was the first to bring natural food into the states..I think she is in her 70’s but looks great an she knows her stuff..I recommend SG products totally, you just need to find the right one for ur special baby. Thanks for this site

  • Jeanne

    I had excellant results with SG Barking/Moon.My Great Dane had no more eye boogers, no itchy skin, and sawa serious reduction in the amount of stool, not to mention they firmed up. I was hoping she was past the age of concern for HOD(age 10 mo.), but the higher protien looked to be too much for her, so we went back to SG Wolf King. Once I am certain she is done growing, I will go back to the Moon formula or try Orijen.

  • sarah

    Unless Solid Gold will state in writing that the fish meal component is purchased from a dealer who does not add ethoxyquin, then it is a no brainer that the food does contain ethoxyquin. Solid Gold is one of the first companies to add fish meal to supplement omega 3 fatty acids. Their original fish meal did not contain ethoxyquin and they stated this on the bag. The replacement fish meal comes with a new label which reads: “No artificial preservatives added”. This means that they did not add any in their formulation but we should all know by now that dog food companies only need to state what they add. They are not responsible for listing the ingredients of the purchased fish meal and other meals. If fish meal is a dry ingredient, then it does not contain viable omega 3 anyway. Buy a dog food without fish meal (they are all preserved with ethoxyquin unless stated in writing) and then supplement your dog with human grade capsules– adding omega 3’s fresh is the only way possible to supplement as they are labile.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi McIntyre… Transitioning gradually to any new food is always a good idea. For more details, please see our FAQ page and look for the topic, “How to Feed a Dog”.

  • Mcintyre

    I feed my dog solid gold barking at the moon. If I get the one that is gluten free, do I have to ease her into it or just switch it? I just don’t want to make her sick. After giving her barking at the moon she don’t itch no more and her hair is looking lots better thanks!!!!!!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Sharon… As I mention in this review, “We are pleased to note that, unlike most fish meals, this [fish meal] appears to be ethoxyquin-free.

  • Sharon McGuire

    Solid Gold Holistique Blendz (green Bag with a big sun on it ) list the 4th ingredient as Ocean Fish Meal should I be concerned about the risk of Ethoxyquin contained in this food due to this ingredient , please advise ?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Henna… Thanks for the tip.

  • Henna

    Looks like Solid Gold has just started producing a new gluten free formula. Looks pretty good to me! http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/products/index.php?product=102&code=1651

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Carole…Oops. You’re right. I’ve now corrected that oversight. In any case, the rating still stays the same. Thanks for the tip.

  • carole

    Hi Mike,
    I feed this kibble to my pack and have been extremely pleased with the results. I’m wondering, however, if you can please offer some clarification.

    In the, “Bottom Line” segment you write: “With no evidence of any plant-based protein concentrates, this is the profile of a kibble containing an abundance of meat”.

    Yet, in the previous section, it states, “The fourth item is potato protein… the dry residue remaining after removing the starchy part of a potato. Even though it contains over 80% protein, this ingredient would be expected to have a lower biological value than meat. This less expensive plant-based ingredient can significantly boost the total protein content reported in this dog food.

    So there is plant-based protein in this food, correct?

    Thanks! Love your website, buddy!

    Carole :)

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  • Barbara

    Looks like you recommend foods high in protein and often high in fat– too much protein in humans can be hard on the renal system (Kidneys) People with kidney disease need low protein diets. My concern is that could dog foods high in protein cause kidney stones etc? Also concerned about high fat – in the 20 % or above – when I tried some of these higher fat foods my dogs got diarrhea. I want the bst for my dogs but also dont want to to create any problems. Appreciate any help.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Sandy… You don’t need a special weight loss food to reach your goals. Most any dog can lose weight on most any dog food. Simply cut the number of calories fed below the number of calories burned. Most (but not all) weight loss products are shamefully low in meat (protein and fat).

  • Sandy

    Hi, am trying to feed my 3 mini-dachshunds a high quality, healthy weight-loss food. I tried the Solid Gold holistic mixed with Wellness weight -reduction kibble…they are 5yrs., 3yrs., and 2 yrs.old, thanks.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Shelly… Solid Gold Barking at the Moon is recommended for adult maintenance only. So, it would not be appropriate to feed a puppy. I have removed this product from the Best Puppy Foods list. Thanks for calling this listing to my attention.

  • Shelly

    Hi There- is Solid Gold Barking at the Moon ok to feed to a puppy? I see its on the best puppy food list, however I do not see that they have a true ‘puppy’ food for this 5 star brand. is it ok to give him the adult food? he is a black lab. Thanks.

  • David R.

    Our dogs, Lacey 2 yrs and Misha 9 months old are both Shepard/Chow mix and even look like they are related which we get asked allot if they are.
    Anyway, they both chose this dry food over Orijin adult dry when we bought small bags.
    I bought the #15 size of Barking At The Moon and now their not as thrilled. Good thing I didn’t go for the biggest bag, whew!
    Lacey & Misha must be like the household humans, love that red meat more then fish, or maybe they feel guilty eating kibble with fish in it so close to the aquariums.

    I like the ingredients list of EVO Red Meat and the 4oz sample I got was gone in a flash, so next week we can start dove-tailing with yet another brand of food.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Keith… If your dogs are doing well on Nature’s Recipe, why switch? We still rate NR as “recommended”. It would be unfair to all the many good dog foods out there if I were to endorse a specific product. Just choose a 4 or 5-star canned or dry food that appeals to you and give it a try.

  • keith richardson

    So, what is the perfect mix for a five star dry and wet dog food? I have Boykin Spaniels who have done well on Nature’s Recipe, but it only gets 3 stars. It is wheat and corn gluten free.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Marshalle… We haven’t yet reviewed the Natural Balance Dog Food Rolls yet. But thanks to your suggestion I’ve added the product to my To Do list. Thanks for the tip.

  • MASHALLE

    MY DOGS ARE ALL 10YRS OLD , THEY EAT EVANGERS DRY AND I GRADE NATURAL BALANCE (TURKEY ROLLS) OVER THE DRY. HOW DOES THE DOG FOOD TOLLS RATE?
    THANKS

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Sharon… Named animal fats are superior (in many ways) to the low quality of “anonymous” animal fat. That’s why we nearly always demote a dog food for containing generic (unidentified) animal fat.

  • Sharon C

    Mike… the reason why canola, even though high in OFA’s is scorned is because it’s well known that almost ALL canola/rapeseed grown in this country is GMO. That’s enough to keep me from using any product that uses it. Another important point to mention is that the main source of fat should ALWAYS be a named ANIMAL fat … ie. chicken fat, salmon oil, or a blend of named fish oils …tuna, anchovy, menhaden etc, not a plant fat. Plant fats should be secondary to animal fats.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi G Perez… We usually review dog foods (in groups) by product line. WolfCub Puppy was included under Solid Gold Dry Dog Food. We gave the group 4 stars.

  • G. Perez

    Hello, I’ve noticed that you make no mention of Solid Gold’s WolfCub kibble. I’ve found it to have a high rating on dogfoodanalysis.com so I’m curious on your findings. I have two chows who like it—one more than the other. I usually mix it with boiled beef and veggies because they don’t do well with chicken. (They use to eat Pedigree, then Nat’l Balance but one still was allergic and not crazy about the kibble.) Please let me know what you think on Wolfcub.

  • todd

    On the comment above, the third food was blue buffalo wilderness.

  • todd

    I just switched over to adult food from ultra nutro puppy food. I wanted a 5 star food and found solid gold barking at the moon, wellness core and and wilderness dry foods locally. I bought 5lb bags of each and let the dog make the taste test. He chose barking at the moon first and wilderness second. He turned up his nose at the wellness core.
    Now I’ll see how his digestion acts with the solid gold.