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Saving Good Dogs from Bad Dog Food
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06/24/2011 Original summary04/03/2012 Last Update
Thanks for posting that list on dog foods. What work you went to. thank you so much!!
In case this makes you feel any better, Science Diet Dog food sales are plummeting. Apparently people are smartening up about what to appropriately feed their dogs. That would be called divine justice.
My vet suggested Science Diet mature for my 13 y/o dashound mix rescue dog because he has too much protein in his kidneys – also have him on a blood pressure pill and omega 3 fish oil – couldn’t find the mature so am trying 4health canned food – anyone know any problems with this food? It’s much less expensive than Science diet and is easier to find (Tractor supply). Thanks
You want to eat dog food?
I am trying to lose some weight and I am trying to find some of the best rated diet products. Do you know of any? Thanks.
Christy, please accept my condolences on the loss of your dogs. Words cannot convey what I am feeling. What have you changed your current dogs food to?
I’m sooo very sorry for your losses Christy!!! That must have been absolutely horrible!!
That does seem pretty unlikely to be a coincidence..
Fingers crossed and praying for your little one’s good health!!!!
Sorry to hear about your dogs. Don’t feel bad about it – you live, you learn. I think that most will agree that feeding our animals is an ongoing learning experience. My dogs have been on quite the nutritional “journey” – so to speak – over the past 5 years. I went from feeding Beneful dry food (recommended by my vet), to feeding 3 and 4 star “holistic” dry foods without corn or by-products, to feeding 5 star grain-free dry and canned foods, to feeding dehydrated foods and am now feeding a homemade raw diet to all three of my hounds. The important thing is that we – as pet owners – need to be proactive and research for ourselves, we can’t just sit back and believe what vets and pet food companies tell us.
I’m not one to post opinions online but I felt led to share my own experience in regards to Science Diet and you all can make up your own decision. I’m an avid pet owner for 36 years. 11 years ago I got 2 dogs, a lab and a beagle lab mix. My vet recommended science diet. I faithfully, and regretfully, used it for 11 years. In the past year, I have lost both of my beloved dogs to Anal cell carcinoma. My lab had “GI” issues for 2 years before being DX. After months of chemo and no improvement he lost his battle. 3 mos ago my other dog had a mass in his anus. He became very sick this past week and when I took him to the vet yesterday he too had anal cell carcinoma with mets throughout. I had to put him down. Coincidence??? Unfortunately, I have 1 little dog left and have also fed him science diet his whole life. It was only after I lost my dogs that I began to research their food. Seems that I’m not the only one who believes science diet has caused-or greatly contributed to-the death of my dogs. Please save your own animals and research there food
Lots of surprises reading about dog food products on this site. I have always tried to feed my dogs ( over 35 years ) good grades of food and after viewing this site I am both appalled and disappointed by some of the info on products I have used or have considered. I am glad I found this. I can share with other readers that I believe by using better and best grade foods that my dogs are healthier and my vet bills have been lower over the years.
I was transitioning my Lab from Hill’s Large Breed Light to Hill’s Prescription JD at a 60/40%. This 8 year old dog apparently died from Hypervitaminosis. Hill’s is running away from answering any questions faster than my dog could run!
A coffee grinder works great.
PLIERS, or a hammer. My geriatric Yorkie mix cannot chew the large size Renal Diet SD food. I crack each nugget into small pieces with pliers.
hey here is the problem, low quality product. That’s what most commercial foods are made of. These foods cause bacteria to grow in your doggies digestive tract that are not supposed to be there. The high volume poo is just the start. there will be vomiting, bloody stool, and so on. try this Chicken backs, bone and all. a raw diet of chicken with the bone is just what your dogs need. Its way cheaper then those “high quality foods” there is less poop, with no smell and dries up, turns white, and washes away in the rain. less shedding, and less vet visits cause its natural to their system. here is a secret your vet wont tell you, they dont know crap about nutrition, and raw chicken bones are malleable and safe for dogs not to mention extremely healthy with most nutrients they need. Plus you can cut it to whatever size you want. Add steamed or raw veggies but should be mashed like you would find in animal intestine. dogs dont digest plants that well, so why feed them corn wheat and soy that is in commercial dog foods? for smaller dogs use chicken necks. oh and they are way cheaper then kibble. Good luck and get away from commercial foods.
Dorothym, they dont put quality ingredients in these ‘dog foods’ only the cheapest. try Chicken backs, bone and all. a raw diet of chicken with the bone is just what your dogs need. Its way cheaper then those “high quality foods” there is less poop, with no smell and dries up, turns white, and washes away in the rain. less shedding, and less vet visits. here is a secret your vet wont tell you, they dont know crap about nutrition, and raw chicken bones are malleable and safe for dogs not to mention extremely healthy with most nutrients they need. you can add steamed or raw veggies but should be mashed like you would find in animal intestine. dogs dont digest plants that well, so why feed them corn wheat and soy that is in commercial dog foods? for smaller dogs use chicken necks. oh and they are way cheaper then kibble.
Chicken backs, bone and all. a raw diet of chicken with the bone is just what your dogs need. Its way cheaper then those “high quality foods” there is less poop, with no smell and dries up, turns white, and washes away in the rain. less shedding, and less vet visits. here is a secret your vet wont tell you, they dont know crap about nutrition, and raw chicken bones are malleable and safe for dogs not to mention extremely healthy with most nutrients they need. you can add steamed or raw veggies but should be mashed like you would find in animal intestine. dogs dont digest plants that well, so why feed them corn wheat and soy that is in commercial dog foods? for smaller dogs use chicken necks. oh and they are way cheaper then kibble.
switch to a raw diet, not the pre-packaged stuff tho. go with some raw beef, not ground, and fish, any but salmon. You can cut as small as you like, and itll get rid of those digestive problems. Here is the issue, the Corn, Wheat, and Soy in “dog food” is hard to digest, and causes the problems you are seeing. Dogs are not meant to eat that stuff, or wolves would eat it. Dont worry, they can handle any bacteria that may be in the meat. Chicken is good too, and usually cheaper. You can get alot of trimmings from your butcher as a low price too. Raw is high in protein and will help your little guy gain his weight back. There is a supplement called Spirulina, a type of seaweed, its full of complete proteins, with all essential amino acids. Its used in cancer and AIDS patients to help with weight loss. good luck and get away from commercial foods
chicken backs, bone and all. a raw diet of chicken with the bone is just what your dogs need. less poop, with no smell and dries up and washes away in the rain. less shedding, no bad breath, and less vet visits. here is a secret your vet wont tell you, they dont know crap about nutrition, and raw chicken bones are malleable and safe for dogs not to mention extremely healthy with most nutrients they need. Vets get paid to carry those foods, not cause they are good for your pet. you can add steamed or raw veggies but should be mashed like you would find in animal intestine. dogs dont digest plants that well, so why feed them corn wheat and soy that is in commercial dog foods? for smaller dogs use chicken necks. oh and they are way cheaper then kibble.
chicken backs, bone and all. a raw diet of chicken with the bone is just what your dogs need. less poop, with no smell and dries up and washes away in the rain. less shedding, and less vet visits. here is a secret your vet wont tell you, they dont know crap about nutrition, and raw chicken bones are malleable and safe for dogs not to mention extremely healthy with most nutrients they need. you can add steamed or raw veggies but should be mashed like you would find in animal intestine. dogs dont digest plants that well, so why feed them corn wheat and soy that is in commercial dog foods? for smaller dogs use chicken necks. oh and they are way cheaper then kibble.
We have a 4 year old Maltese that was having similar problems. $1700.00 later we found out that he has Addison’s disease and auto-immune system problems. He is now on a steroid pill everyday for the rest of his life along with a special diet of HA dog food sold at our vets office. His diarreha with bright red blood and vomiting is now under control.
One of my hounds has had some problems in the past with colitis. Her stomach use to sound terrible after eating. I now feed kibble once a day and canned or air dry the second and I always add digestive enzymes, probiotics, and pumpkin. She will inhale her food so I also use those special bowls that make her slow down. I always wet the kibble and since going totally grain and potato free her problems have gone away entirely. I would also recommend that you research some of the 4-5 star foods on DFA. Personally I do not think Science Diet is a quality food. Your dog may do better with a canned food (not Science Diet) or dehydrated that you can add water to. Fromm has small bites.
I have an 8 year old Yorkie that is really having some serious digestive issues. She has had a bloody stool on and off since she was a puppy, but now is having the problem almost every day. Her stomach rolls after she eats and it is not long before she has bloody diarrhea often accompanied by vomiting. She used to weigh 5 1/2 pounds, but is down to under 5 pounds now. She is still energetic and playful, so it has not affected her disposition yet, but we are all worried. I started her on Science Diet for Sensitive Stomachs and that does seem to help. The only problem is that I have not been able to find it in small bites. She doesn’t have many teeth left, so I have to soak the big bites to get them where she can handle them. Not ideal by any means. Do you have any suggestions?
A very helpful site! Thank you for showing it to me! very much!
Love it now! Dog’s stomach has calmed down but seems to have a bit of a problem other than the dog food! But even though it is more, Kaysee only weighs 5 lbs so she doesn’t eat very much! I truely think it has improved her “system” all the way thru! Not a lot of unnecessary filler! Se the ingredients! I give it an A Plus!
I am very happy i have come to this particular website.
Very interesting blog page. I simply got nothing to do therefore I’m simply killing time searching the internet and I find that I’ve discovered some really valuable web site. Many thanks
Hi, Dr. Mike. Is that “hover” feature still active? I don’t seem to get the posting history. I “thought” I did see it a couple of weeks ago, but now I don’t.
Dogs are cool in every way, and we have so much to learn from them.
May be you can give me some advise.Ihave 2 standard poodle on EN veterinary gastric food; very expensive and not really good 2 strars
I don’t want to ignore their problem but…
I went to many stores to find THE ONE. I’ve heard about Pronature senor.A breeder(standard poodle) told that is the food she is giving to her dogs who has the similar problem
I live in Québec city Ispeak french That why my english writing is so so
Anything is better than Purina, but try putting your dog on an all natural dog food. It might cost a little bit more but once you see the results it will be worth it. There are a lot of great foods on the market.
I have to agree with Michelle. I would not feed them a food that is causing them to border on incontinence. One or two pounds heavy is not obese, and can be managed by a slight decrease in the amount fed of the original food. SD commands a high price, and imo, is not worth it. I fed SD many many years ago when it was new to the market and the dogs did fine, but there are better foods out there. Stay awhile and check out Mike’s site for reccomendations, write down the ones that catch your interest and check them out at your local petstore. You will be amazed that many higher rated foods are less than the SD both grain free and grain inclusive(I feed a mix of both)
Thanks for brief explained. i have to sharing related to this topic.Dog food refers to food specifically intended for consumption.Though technically omnivorous, dogs exhibit a natural carnivorous bias, have sharp, pointy teeth, and have short gastrointestinal tracts better suited for the consumption of meat. In spite of this natural carnivorous design, dogs have still managed to evolve over thousands of years to survive on the meat and non-meat scraps and leftovers of human existence and thrive on a variety of foods.
what about Ideal Balance Science Diet? It does not have corn in but does have whole grain, chicken, veggies, cranberries, etc. I was told that “chicken meal” is all the chicken “junk” mushed up together.
Hi Guest, the extra output is probably due to higher fiber content in the weight management formula. You are paying a premium price for a 2 star product, please read a detailed review above. For the money that you are paying, or maybe even less, you could get your dogs a much healthier food. If you would like help in choosing a new food please let me know. If not ,then I would suggest just feeding less of the original formula.
We have 3 dogs, 2 Shih Tsus & a Boston Terrier/Pug mix. We were feeding them the Regular Science Diet Small Bits. Our vet thought all 3 were a little overweight. He thought they could all loose 1-2 lbs. Recently I bought the Science Diet Small Bites weight management formula. Our dogs’ bowel movements have increased so much, maybe at least 3 times more than before. They’ve been having accidents, if they’re not walked every few hours. Is this normal? Should I switch back? Anyone have any experience with this. Is this temporary? No upset stomachs, just a lot of….output. Not to be gross.
Oh thanks, i appriciate that!
This is a great website. I read some posts in here. All them is very good. Having much necessary problem that you haven’t ever known before. Thank for share!
Holiday cottage type mozzarella dairy product provides some limescale mineral. Calcium is a really essential aspect of a pet’s eating plan so you will need to supplement with a multivitamin pill. I use and suggest Pet-Tabs Plus. I like to mix a little bit of water in with the meals to incorporate.
Hi Sandy… That page is still there. But the links won’t take you to where you want to go. All the comments are now stored on the Disqus server. So, they all have different comment number identities.
I’m still setting things up as I find time. One new page not yet posted is called http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/community
Try that page and notice the 3 tabs at the top. They will also provide some new info. Always click on the time/date links to be transported to the appropriate comment.
Hope this helps.
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I found it. It moved to the left side.
It’s two blue titles above “Latest Articles” on the left, t’words the top.
I have this page saved:
But how would I get to it otherwise directly from the site?
I like this new blog format. I also prefer the default, ‘Sort by newest first’ comments option so one can see straight away the latest comments.
In passing….R.I.P. Jenna O’Grady Donley, a young smart and beautiful woman who was to officially graduate from Sydney university in veterinary science, next week, was killed by an elephant in Malaysia in the last 24 hours.
Hi Toxed2loss… Great. There are some issues I’m not crazy about. But try this: Hover your mouse over anyone’s profile picture (even the ones without gravatars). You can see a whole history of that person’s posts. Pretty cool and useful, too.
Hi Monkey… I don’t like “Newest First” either as I’m used to newest comments at the bottom of the page (along with the comment box).
You can change the sort order yourself to oldest first. I tried it but that means that if you have 1,500 comments (like some posts already have), you’ll see the oldest comments on your first page. So, you’d have to navigate to page 15 to see the newest ones.
I decided to use the current “Newest First” sort for myself. It’s more like my email editor, Facebook and Twitter. Though it doesn’t seem natural now, it will in a few days or so.
The excerpt page still exists, but since our comments are now hosted on the Disqus server, the links in our page won’t take you to the comment you’re looking for.
I’ve settled on Disqus because of its Internet-wide acceptance as “the standard”. Once you register with Disqus, you can use it on thousands of blogs that use Disqus, too.
Sorry for all these changes. I dislike change as much as anyone. But since WordPress is not currently supporting comment structure like it once did, I found Disqus to be the best solution.
Here’s something interesting. Hover over anyone’s profile picture and notice the pop-up that lists that person’s posting history. Pretty cool way to find older comments that you’d like to re-read.
You can also link to Facebook and Twitter, too.
There are dozens of other features you’ll slowly uncover like I did. Hope this works out better for all of us over time. Thanks for your question.
I don’t know if i like “newest first” being default. It doesn’t feel very natural. Mike S, will you be bringing back the excerpt page too or does that not work with Disqus?
I LOVE THE EDIT FEATURE!!!! Woooo-hooo!
Hi Marie and Toxed2loss… Finally, we’ve migrated to a new comment system called Disqus (pronounced “discuss”). This software has lots of cool features, like threading, email notification and the ability to view someone’s posting history.
With threading (using the “Reply” feature), your comment will not necessarily be at the top of a thread but indented just beneath the post you replied to.
There are lots more features coming. So, for now, get comfortable. I’ve been testing this for weeks and I promise, it will get much easier for you moving forward.
This should preclude any need for us to open a forum. I’m going to be introducing lots of new topics over the next few months. And your comments will be used to help re-write parts as we work together to build more interesting content for others to reference.
You’re not dense! Mike S is working on upgrading the site. There have been a few bugs. While he works on fixing it, he puts the old format back in place, so we can keep blogging. thoughtful, huh? Then he tries uploading the “debugged” version, until he finds a bug in that. He’s certainly being diligent. I’m liking this threaded format!
LOL because I guess I don’t get what’s going on now? I AM really tired, so I think that’s it. Sorry for being so dense.
Why are you confused?
I shall remain forever confused.
Hang in there Marie! Keep trying!
Uh, no? LOL what’s going on now?
Not any more, or the government either, but lots of people still
Do. Afraid I lost my naïveté when I got toxed. It’s a very cruel world. Good thing there are still some incredible people in it.
You trust the police? lol
Toxie? LOL, you haven’t seen any unmasked pics of me floating around, have you DFN? Never mind!
I agree with you on the premise that they SHOULD be more careful. But the fact is they are indoctrinated. They have been taught by a chemical industry financed system in a mind controlling manner only rivalled by Stalin, Hitler, and the Taliban. 8 years of intense study and sleep deprivation, followed by internships w/grueling 48 hr rotations!
Yes, the system is broken. That’s part of the reason I do what I do! (Raise awareness) I do think the public needs re-educating. If your older, you grew up before the chemical companies had such a tight grip. Back then your doctor was trusted. He was someone you knew all your life. It’s hard for people to let that go. They still see docs like they see policemen. Trusted authorities. We all want things just a bit easier, that’s why so many people come to this site. They can get good info here, without doing the extensive research. I do think it’s important to question your service providers, but not everybody operates that way. I’m aggressive, most people are passive. They would never think of questioning an authority. That’s another good reason to come to this site… We do. We kick it back and forth, so less combative people can see both sides…
You both have good points!
Yes, I think they DO make erroneous recommendations. But they are erroneous to you and I, not to them – and at least in the case of vets recommending Hill’s, it’s at LEAST based on some form of formal testing and study.
Agreed that health and nutrition are intertwined – but doctors and vets studied medicine to practice using evidence based medicine. Hill’s provides vets and pharmaceutical companies provide doctors with a form of each, and THAT’S what they use to make decisions. I’m not saying it’s good, but this is why vets recommend what they do.
In this era, people have literally the most powerful educational tool sitting in their offices, bedrooms, and even in their cell phones. There is NO EXCUSE to NOT educate oneself on health and nutrition. So I feel little sympathy for those that can but don’t bother and would rather listen to someone tell them what to do in life.
My problem, Marie and Toxie, is that these people are in a position of power and trust. And many times I’ve heard vets and doctors make food suggestions based on erroneous information, so then you have a person who thinks “well my doctor/vet recommended it…”. Also, you mention their job is to diagnose. Well guess what… they misdiagnose things CONSTANTLY and throw medications at symptoms rather than fix the root cause, which, many times, is diet related. You are what you eat! Nutrition and health care should not be mutually exclusive, they should be indelibly intertwined! And yes, consumers have a responsibility to self educate. But at the same time, industry (medical, food, etc) shouldn’t be so free to take advantage of consumer’s gullibility and/or lack of knowledge.
And to be honest, I have strong objections towards blanket statements regarding a specific demographic of people.
My vet has been in practice for 25 years or so, and she sells prescription Hills and Royal Canin. Of course, what she has on her shelves seems to be collecting dust – in the 2 years I’ve been going to her, the only Rx food she has recommended was to help my severely underweight kitten get her blood glucose up as a temporary fix. When she complimented me on my other cat’s glossy fur, she got excited when I told her about Blue Wilderness (the food he was on since he was a kitten) and started recommending it to her clients. She is not a holistic vet, but she has talked to me about a diabetic cat that impressed her by doing so well on raw that it no longer needed shots – and now she recommends raw for her diabetic patients (when she deems it appropriate against other health factors). She’s even said she’s glad I tell her about this stuff, because with a large practice and family to run (LOL) she just doesn’t have much time left over for research. Vets are in business to make money, sure, but a lot of them do it because they really do want to help animals, but their training just doesn’t emphasize nutrition, as well as that of other medical professionals. (Except for dentists? )
Vets are indoctrinated by the machine of big businesss:
Vets won’t have a clue about diet unless they do their own research…
I’m jumping in and agreeing with Marie here, DFN. Vets are indoctrinated, and many are now getting a clue. It’s difficult for them, because “the machine” keeps churning out more indoctrinated ones and they, like many f you when I get talking, feel over whelmed by the sheer magnitude of what they discover they don’t know. Toxicology is after all, another 8 year degree, as is a clinical nutritionist… So they practice what they know and they are on call. Nt much tie for research… The system rather overwhelms them. Which is why I work with a conventional vet and just keep educating him. He has an open mind, and if I give him relevent and reliable arterial, he’ll act on it.
I chose my doctor and pharmacists the same way. I no longer take pharmaceuticals, but I need compounded nutrients.
*years, lol Although I did want to cry a lot
Doctors aren’t popping anything down anyone’s throats. People demand an easy quick fix, so doctors just give it. I’ve worked in retail pharmacy for several tears, I’ve seen this lack of desire to be proactive (from a patient standpoint) and pharmaceutical companies just market to that.
There is no excuse for patient or client ignorance in that matter, and I agree that vets and doctors alike SHOULD learn more about nutrition. But that is NOT what they are trained in, and that’s not why I go to a doctor or veterinarian. I go because I need a diagnosis, or treatment that I cannot legally purchase without a physician’s (or vet’s) consent. I don’t demand expertise in oncology out of an endocrinologist, and I don’t expect my vet, trained in treating (allopathically, mind you) several species to be an expert in nutrition of any one animal. That’s not what western medicine focuses on, unfortunately.
But Marie, the vet is also being “blissfully ignorant”. Look, I run a pet store and in the last year and a half have become extremely knowledgeable about dog and cat nutrition and have, on more occasions than I can even remember now, “cured” a dog of chronic health problems by changing their diet. I’ve applied the same principles to myself and have gotten off of all the pharmaceuticals I was on. The way I feel about vets blindly accepting the information fed to them is “shame on you!”. I could make just as much money selling people low cost crappy foods… heck, maybe more money, because they’d have extra cash left to blow on higher margin toys. But I have taken it upon myself to learn all I can about nutrition to help animals. And I’m a pet store employee. You would think a Veterinarian, who spent years in school to learn how to help animals and has made a career out of it, would WANT to learn about nutrition. That’s why it bothers me. It tells me they don’t care about their job. Just like with human Doctors and their pharmaceuticals. It’s all about the money. There may be genuine needs for some pharmaceuticals, but most of the ones that doctors are popping down the throats of their patients are medicines designed to cover up symptoms of an overlying problem caused by poor diet.
“let medicine be thy food and food be thy medicine.” -Hippocrates
Look, vets aren’t retarded – they’re practitioners of allopathic medicine – just on animals. They receive scientific training in their studies, and while I 100% agree that Hill’s OTC Science Diet food SUCKS, their prescription foods they actually test and a scientifically-minded professional like a vet appreciates that. Whether or not it’s funded by Hill’s isn’t too relevant given that pharmaceutical companies MUST fund and preform their own testing if they want to claim their product can treat a specific condition. So I guess this implication is that Hill’s lies in all their studies on their food? Doctors don’t know much about nutrition either. That’s why you usually get referred to a nutritionist for specific dietary needs.
The mark-up on pet food in the average vet practice isn’t exactly them making money hand over fist – it’s usually vaccines and other procedures that make them money. Not that there is anything wrong with that – a vet practice is a business, and if the vet recommends a *prescription* food in good faith to my animal for it’s well-being, I’m not going to flip out and change vets or think s/he doesn’t ‘know any better’.
That being said, I do agree that vets (like doctors) do NOT know much about nutrition. But they don’t base their food recommendations on what we call ‘common sense’, they base it on data.
I’m not trying to defend Hill’s here, just trying to illustrate where most vets are coming from.
Hill’s sponsors a lot of veterinary nutrition seminars/classes, as well as major entertainment at veterinary tradeshows (I have been/witnessed firsthand), and I know at least one vet school (I would guess a lot) is “sponsored” by Hill’s, they give food to the vet students at a huge discount (like $10 for a huge bag) if not free for their personal dogs, as well as the dogs in a lot of shelters and humane societies. When the vets learn nutrition from a Hill’s perspective, with a lot of “science” to back it up, and they get perks, it lends them to like/prescribe Hill’s. It is the same as pharmaceutical reps taking doctors out to play golf or to medical conferences in the Bahamas. Many vets offices also sell Hill’s, so they get a good bit of income from the product as well. If anyone prescribes something that they sell/make money off of, be skeptical. I appreciate HIll’s donating to shelters, any food is better than none, but it is also marketing to adopters that Hill’s is the food to continue feeding to their new dog. Hill’s is prescribed by vets who don’t know any better, since their nutritional studies more likely than not were sponsored by Hill’s (same with drug companies). Vets tell me they do not learn much about nutrition in their curriculum and I hope that will change. I have friends in vet school, and I do marketing. The strategy works, unfortunately.
Vets pushing this food is probably just like doctors pushing certain meds. It is not solely bcs of the empirical test data but also bcs of the sales rep effort to have the vet endorse it. If you know it’s bad, if the reviews here are bad then no matter what test results you have, it is still bad.
It’s like saying marlboro ultra lights are better than reds, they’re both bad, no matter how less of which ingredient is in it
In what country are the Hills dog food (Science) diet foods made in ?
Well, what I meant was that they formulate these foods (with said awful ingredients) and then test them to see if they would work for certain conditions. Even if the animal’s condition improves just marginally, it’s considered a success and they write up how they did the trial, a vet reads it, deems it scientifically sound, and prescribes it.
Dear Marie – thank you for your reply but it doesn’t make much sense to me. Kind of reminds me of the idea that just because you are really intelligent does not always mean you have much common sense. (referring to vets and pet food companies). You have a food that consists of ingredients that are terrible but cause you study and test these terrible ingredients…..then its okay to feed them to dogs/cats. Hmmmm…..I’m still confused but thanks anyway. And still won’t purchase Hills products.
Vets “push” this food because, unlike many other foods, Hill’s does actual studies and testing on their foods – and to a scientifically trained professional like a veterinarian, that’s very very important. It’s like a doctor prescribing a non-tested drug…they won’t do it. And they don’t want you taking it.
I am not trying to defend Hill’s – their food, ingredient-wise, is terrible – but they do have at least that to their credit. *shrug*
Any vet I have ever used thinks the “ONLY” food everyone should be feeding their pets is Science Diet. Since I would never feed my dogs this food; it usually gets a little heated when the subject of diet comes up. I would like to know the real reason vets push Science Diet. I’ve heard that the company, Hills, is very present at vet schools across the country and that vets make lots of money selling this crappy product. Why would these people who have been to college, are smarter than me, have chosen a career of helping animals……and yet they push this bad food down our throats. Whats the deal?
Hi Linda… The fact a food is made in the US does not automatically make it a good food. Some of the very best (and very worst) dog foods I’ve reviewed come from our own country. The country of origin can be an important clue but it is never a guarantee you’ve found a good or a bad food.
That is why all the ratings of all the foods on my website are based upon the label alone. And nothing else.
To learn why I intentionally ignore everything else in my reports, please be sure to check out my article, “The Problem with Dog Food Reviews“. Hope this helps.
Hi, I am trying to find a dogfood that my dachshund, Wendell, can eat asap, since I believe he may be allergic to his current food. I have tried Simply Nourish and he seems to like it, but I would like to know why you said that the brand “claims” to meet the AAFCO standards and not that it “does meet” the AAFCO standards.
I also noted on the bag of dry dogfood that it was made in Taiwan. Do you know the bearing of this on the quality of food. Are the standards for the meat and products used in the “Simply Nourish” food as good as other well-rated foods made in the US, Canada, etc.
Hi Cheryl… I’ve already reviewed Hill’s Science Diet Nature’s Best. Just look for it using its full name in our Search by Brand list. Hope this helps.
Have you viewed Science Diet Nature’s Best?
Hey Mike – Sorry to add to your backlogged To Do List, but could you review Hill’s Ideal Balance line? To this (rather untrained) eye, the ingredients looks a slight bit improved upon the traditional SD foods (no by-products or brewers rice, etc.). Maybe the SD version of Purina’s One Beyond?
Hi Mike – Really appreciate the work you do on these dog foods. I, too, am interested in your review of Hills Prescription t/d. Thanx again, Karen
Hi Dianne… Hill’s Prescription Diet D/D canned dog food is already on my To Do list. However, due to our current backlog of products for review, it could be a while longer before I get to it. Thanks for the reminder.
Mike, I hope d/d canned is somewhere on your to do list.Took
Sharpee to his Vet for annual checkup yesterday.Discussed my concerns about his food and he said if it were his dog,he was eating it and had no problems,he would leave him on it.And why…because we don’t know what he can tollerate in his diet.The d/d kibble/hard is a one star…Thanks in advance if and when you have the time! Dianne
Hi Mary… Thanks to your suggestion, I’ve added Hill’s Healthy Advantage to my To Do list. However, due to my current backlog of products for review, it could be a while longer before I get to it. Thanks again for your suggestion.
All seven of the first ingredients are red-flag agricultural and meat-packing by-products. This trash is nothing but filler. Have a look.
Hill’s Science Diet Healthy Advantage
Chicken By-Product Meal, Brewers Rice, Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Corn, Powdered Cellulose, Soybean Mill Run, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Egg Product, Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Oil, Lactic Acid, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Iodized Salt, Dried Chicken Cartilage, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, L-Carnitine, Phosphoric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.
Carbohydrate (NFE) 44.6
Crude Fiber 10.6
Vitamin C 225 mg/kg
Vitamin E 743 IU/kg
Omega-3 Fatty Acids Total 0.46
Omega-6 Fatty Acids Total 3.53
Chondroitin Sulfate 1498 mg/kg (ppm)
Glucosamine 831 mg/kg (ppm)
Could you pleased review Hill’s Science Diet Healthy Advantage.
Hi Meagan… Hill’s Prescription T/D is already on my To Do list. However, due to our current backlog of products for review, it could be a while longer before we get to it. Thanks for the suggestion.
Mike- Wondering if you could review the Hill’s perscription T/D its for dental.
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