Royal Canin Veterinary Diets Calorie Control (Dry)

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Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆

Royal Canin Veterinary Diets Calorie Control is not rated due to its intentional therapeutic design.

Notes and Updates

09/03/2010 Original review
11/14/2013 Last Update

  • sue66b

    Have you read the ingredients to the food ur feeding ur dogs, My boy was on the R/C hypoallergenic cause of his enviornment allergies..R/C use posh words for their ingredients so I started googling what they meant ‘dehydrated poultry protein’ is BY-Products there is nothing healthy in this feed, My boy got treal sick after being on the Hypoallergenic Kibble …I’d look for another weight control food like Wellpet who make Wellness ‘Grainfree Reduced Fat ‘ alot of people on this site recommend the Core reduced fat,If you dont want to completely go grain free there’s the Wellness complete Health ‘Healthy weight deboned chicken & peas recipe’ Wellpet also make Holistic Select Weight mangement Chicken meal & peas dry…with these kibbles ur getting proper chicken not all the rubbish that R/C use with By-Products ur right R/C is dear & its not worth it ur paying for the name ‘Royal Canin’..Ur dogs deserve better if you do decide to change kibbles start with either the Holislic Select or the Wellness complete Health as these kibbles have rice oatmeal as their grains not corn like R/C then if you do decide try the wellness grainfree core but do it slowly as ur dogs have been on this kibble for years, a change will do them good. have a look at the ingredients to the Holistic select http://www.holisticselect.com then look at the ingredient to the R/C…..

  • Shawna

    Touche!! I should say, the high protein, moderate fat diets I feed have been very effective at helping my foster dogs lose weight while keeping them satiated.

    In the linked diet it must have been the lack of hypoglycemia from a high carb diet resulting in “hunger”.

  • aimee

    “dogs needing to lose weight do very well on high protein, low carb
    diets. The moderate fat content keeps them feeling full just like the
    fiber in higher carb foods.”

    The fat content in the diets in this study ranged from 8-11%. If these are moderate fat diets what do you consider a low fat diet? Or is that not what you meant.

  • Shawna

    Hi aquariangt :)

    This is the link to the post with the data I mentioned. If it doesn’t get you there for some reason let me know and I can post more data. http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/choosing-dog-food/five-most-important/#comment-1360061459

    Edit — FYI, the post is REALLY long. Sorry… :(

  • aquariangt

    what thread was that link in Shawna? I’d love to take a read!

  • Shawna

    I’ve seen a lot of those same vets recommending foods such as Purina Beneful. Do you feel Beneful is a quality food?

    It is common knowledge that vets don’t get a great deal of nutritional training in school. I’m not sure we can truly rely on most vets as a good source of information regarding diet. Some, of course do take post graduate courses, seminars etc but I have found they are less common. One vet I personally know that took three years of post graduate nutritional training recommends Nature’s Variety raw (and other raw foods). Most of the independent veterinary nutritionists I’m aware of recommend whole foods (either cooked or raw) and sometimes higher quality kibbles. I posted data from Dr. Meg Smart yesterday suggesting to purchase foods from smaller family owned, and accountable manufacturers.

  • Dogs4Life

    I appreciate the link and I don’t doubt Dr. Lauten has great clinical experience and knowledge. But at the end of the day its always gonna be one Dr’s opinion against another. I personally trust the doctors I’ve come to know. But that’s just me. I think it would be interesting to see the % of which vets through the CVO (or which every vet association) do recommend corn based diet and which don’t. Also their top 5 recommended food brands. I would find that very interesting.

  • Shawna

    The ingredients in this diet are hideous. :(

    The Journal of Research has a great paper on how dogs needing to lose weight do very well on high protein, low carb diets. The moderate fat content keeps them feeling full just like the fiber in higher carb foods. http://nutrition.highwire.org/content/134/8/2087S.full

    This dog doesn’t need to lose weight per the initial post but the journal paper also says this. “Low-carbohydrate diets also help stabilize blood glucose levels throughout the day, preventing the hypoglycemia
    after a high-carbohydrate meal that causes hunger (8,9).”

    If the dog is eating these odd things because of hunger than a high protein low carb diet, per this Journal of Nutrition Paper, might help more than a high carb diet like the RC you mention. The fiber, of course, would help with feeling full but fiber also binds with nutrients may be problematic if consumed long term. Dr. Karen Becker DVM has an article about the pitfalls of high fiber foods.

  • Shawna

    Would you trust Dr. Susan Lauten

    “Susan Lauten, Ph, of Pet Nutrition Consulting, http://www.PetNutritionConsulting.com. Dr. Lauten is a Clinical Instructor of Veterinary Nutrition at a Veterinary Teaching College

    Ingredients to avoid: By-products, the word meat (not identifying what kind of meat, poultry meal, BHA, BHT, ethoxyquin, artificial colorants, ground corn, and animal fat other than fish oil.” http://www.greymuzzle.org/GreyMuz/files/df/df1aea20-1e30-4ebb-befd-44aa5fb92a82.pdf

    I also found an article from her on Nature’s Variety website. She states

    “What to Avoid:

    Low quality grains (such as “corn” and
    “wheat” and “soy”) used for protein are indicative of a lower quality
    food as these ingredients are much less experience than desirable meat
    proteins.” http://www.naturesvariety.com/about/experts/Lauten
    I think “experience” should probably by “expensive”.

  • Dogs4Life

    Try the satiety support – its a weight management diet that’s fantastic for labs – its designed to make them feel fuller.

  • Dogs4Life

    I completely agree with you Frank. And you said it best “corn is a great compliment to meat.” And sure its possible for some dogs to be allergies, but that doesn’t mean all dogs. People supplying “proof” via other links to this website is not a good source.

  • Meghan

    My other suggestions would be to look into the cost of the weight control diets…. may be cheaper…. but only as long as if they have reached their goal weight that you want to maintain. Its so important for these types of breeds with the short stalky legs that tend to have joint issue as their older to keep that weight off, so far it sounds like you’ve done a great job.

  • Meghan

    agree!

  • Meghan

    First how old is your dog? and have you found the food successful?

  • Meghan

    It is a really great food – and yes I have to wonder why risk switching if they are doing well on it? It is expected for a therapeutic diet to be more expensive than regular life stage diets, unfortunately if that’s what your pet needs then as long as their happy is what counts right? Also retroactively by feeding a veterinary exclusive diet you should be having less visits to the vet, which it sounds you’ve succeeded with :) You could possible try purchasing the same food in the states….everything is cheap there.

  • Dulcy Gosleigh

    I have been using this brand of food for years now & my dogs have never had a problem with it. I’m finding it very alarming to hear such negativity about it. All of my dogs have been, & are Basset Hound X’s, which are prone to weight gain. My beloved “Mitz” was on this food all of her life until she passed at 14 years old & she never had a problem with it. I now have 2 other girls, 5 & 2 years old, which also are on this diet, except the 2 year old, which is Basset crossed with a Blue Healer, her needs are a bit different, very high energy, so she’s on half & half of the calorie control & the normal adult dry food. they get 3/4 of a cup twice a day & I also feed them the canned calorie control at lunch time. They both weigh 30 lbs, & I want to keep it that way. This is the diet that my vets put my dogs on. I have asked about changing it, & their reply was, … why? My babies are healthy & have no issues at all, so why change what seems to be working with my girls…… If anyone has any other suggestion, please let me know…. I do agree however that this food is very expensive. I just bought a new bag, 8 kg (17.6 lbs) & it cost me $84.53 canadian. The adult food is a bit cheaper, the canned, another 40 bucks a case , which lasts me about a month & a half for everything :/ If I could find an alternative food at a lower price, I would definitely look into it, but I’m afraid because of all the recalls…. Any suggetions?

  • Crownroom

    Pam, usually I find it in a display box on a shelf in the far corner of the pet food section. At my store, pet foods are just beyond bottled waters and paper goods. Bjs averages $29 a bottle. Typical pricing I see on line and at other stores ranges from $34 – $39 for the same size.

  • Pam c

    What section of the store do you find it?

  • Crownroom

    I have had Shelties for years, up to 14 years old. I typically start them on a joint supplement (not special diet food) at around 4 – 5 years of age. I recommend “Cosequin DS Plus MSM” flavored tabs. My two get 1/2 a tab daily as a maintenance dose and readily accept the tablet. I believe you give a double dose for the first 30 days then go on the maintenance dosing per the label. I’ve found the best price has been at BJs WHolesale Club, about $29 for 132 count.

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  • rockinone

    Our 9 year olf Aussie has been on this and Veterinary SO for a couple years. She is prone to crystals and bladder stones and as long as she has been on this food she has had none. But I am noticing she is “stiff” after laying down for a while. What should I supplement with? I am afraid to change the food as she has had no crystals or stones in a couple years now. But I am open to suggestions because I want the very best for her, Any thoughts or ideas are welcome please!!! thanks!

  • Dommiel74

     Thats because corn is highly digestible once you remove the outer covering.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    1. How about changing his food to a grain free food? Grains are considered “inflammatory” foods.

    2. Do you give any supplements? Fish oil, organic tumeric, joint supplements of any kind?

    3. Check the “Suggested Low Fat Foods” list for more food options, although weight loss can be obtained through non diet-type foods.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1140685339 Betsy Greer

    Jaxiepoo,

    Not far below your post, Sandy posted a reply to Heather Hamilton with a YouTube link that you might also want to check out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1140685339 Betsy Greer

    How long has he been on the same food? How old is your dog and what breed is he? It’s likely that you’re right and that he’s not getting the nutrients that he needs. Are you adding any supplements to his food right now or using any canned foods as toppers?

  • Jaxiepoo

    My dog has been on this food for a while. He is suffering from (what seems like)arthritis. He is over-weight, and though he does exercise, his joints are getting so stiff that he limps. :( Is it possible he is not getting adequate nutrition? Do you have any nutritional (or otherwise) recommendations?

  • HDpetsitting

    Can you review the new Royal Canin Satiety dry food?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/ka.pang.12 Ka Pui Pang

    The first ingredient is corn. Original review was post back in 2010. Perhaps it has been changed. I have started paying attention to ingredients on dog food recently. Is corn really bad or good? Some sites (dog food official sites of course) say they use high quality corn which are easy to digest and nutritious ….etc

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  • sandy

    Heather,

    Go to Youtube and watch Dr Karen Becker “The Skinny on low fat diets” video.

    Cellulose being the 3rd ingredient and non-digestible is just a filler.  No nutritional value.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Q4zkRL9uI

  • http://www.facebook.com/hkrose Heather Hamilton

    Bob – I agree this this statement, as even though we are feeding the recommended scoops (he is 7 yrs old, 82lbs, and the bag says to give him 3 1/4c so we do), he gets into the trash, has eaten hair wax, dr pepper cans, our Christmas tree, and candles. 

    He had mast cell cancer, and all of this was removed in October.  He has been doing these awful things since he recovered from the surgery. What do you think is happening? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/hkrose Heather Hamilton

    Wow. I was prescribed this dog food from my veterinarian to help my lab lose some weight. When we adopted him last May, he was 118lbs. Now, he is a healthy 82lbs. Seems to be working for him – more energy, healthy weight, and we have never had any problems. His teeth are great, his coat is wonderful, energy level … well, high – he’s a lab! No problems. How can this food be bad for him when it has helped him so much? It was recommended by 3 different veterinarians to help him with weight loss. He has been on this food for about 6 months now, and it has helped tremendously.

  • Michelle

    Nancy McCabe, Just look around on this site at the 4 & 5* foods.

  • Nancy McCabe

    thanks for all the info on Royal Canin…I’m open for any suggestions that are 4 and/or 5 star for my yorkies…

  • Shawna

    Hi Frank,

    I have a dog with congenital kidney disease. We noticed symptoms when she was just 5 to 6 weeks old. She was officially diagnosed at age 1. She is now 5. I would NEVER feed her corn or any other grain for protein because (even though highly “digestible”) they are not highly bioavailable on a cellular level and cause more blood urea nitrogen then animal proteins.

    Some would say that this is a special case because of the kd. However, lots of dogs are diagnosed with kd and over 65% (or more) of the kidneys have to be damaged before symptoms are seen. So lower quality (on a cellular level) proteins are contributing to the overworking and possible eventual failure in some animals.

    Added to that objection these grains (especially corn) are significantly high in omega 6 fatty acids and therefore are inflammatory.

    Corn allergy study from Veterinary Dermatology http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-3164.2003.00338.x/full

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Frank… Yes, the amino acids in corn are digestible. It’s just that compared to meat, corn is an exceptionally poor source of amino acids. The grain itself contains a whopping 93% carbohydrates and only 7% amino acid (as protein).

    What’s more, corn has an amino acid score of just 55 whereas whole chicken has a score of 132.

    Like you, we’re ALL “tired of bad information”. Especially the exaggerated claims regarding the nutritional benefits of corn (and other cereal grains) in commercial pet foods. Please visit my article. “The Truth About Corn” for the facts.

  • Frank

    You are right, dogs aren’t humans.
    A lion is a obligate carnivore, meaning they need to get all their nutrition from animal flesh.
    A dog is a facultative carnivore meaning they can get their nutrition from meat and other sources.

    As far as nutrition, a dogs body DOES need the amino acids from meat but the amino acids from corn are a great compliment to the meat. In addition the protein in corn meal is 91% digestable, comparable to meat meal.

    Next, someone is going to say that corn causes food allergies. Give me a link to the study that shows this is true.

    Lastly, before I get accused, No, I am not a corn meal producer or manufacturer or salesman (and not a farmer). I am just tired of bad information.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    A special note for Frank… Unlike humans (true omnivores), dogs haven’t evolved away from their unmistakable and obvious carnivorous bias. What a dog can tolerate versus what a dog is optimized for are two different issues. Using human vegetarian diets as your example to justify what’s appropriate for dogs would be completely inappropriate. This site was never intended to appeal to human vegetarians. It’s designed to address the dietary needs of dogs.

    You’re right. Compared to animal protein, plant protein isn’t “bad”. It is, however, nutritionally inferior.

  • Frank

    And a special note for the DogFoodAdvisor … just because your protein source isn’t meat doesn’t mean its a bad product. Their are other ways of getting the nessary amino acids. Try telling humans on a vegetarian or vegan diet that they aren’t healthy because they HAVE to get their protein from a meat source. You’ll be in for a lecture. All these dog food “experts” refer to when dogs were in the “wild” they ate meat. Humans use to kill elephants and lions to get meat but we don’t have to do that anymore. Different isn’t bad.

  • Frank

    Jonathan … really! Potatoes, Tomatoes, Carrots, Blueberries, KALE! People have been so brainwashed. So a bunch of vegetables and a couple fruits are better than a refined corn product that has been worked in order to get the maximum NUTRITIONAL value form its parts (grem, gluten, starch, and fiber)? These aren’t the days when pet food companies grind some corn and throw it in some kibble as filler. If you are sitting there saying “Oh yes they do” Then look at Wellness Core Reduced Fat with the same skepticism and consider this … Turkey meal can be made from TURKEY FEATHERS! It is very high in protein. Oh yeah, dogs and cats can’t digest it. It has no nutritional value for dogs or cats! If you have four stomachs like a cow, it can be digested just fine. But we don’t know if this Turkey meal in Wellness is from Turkey meat or from feathers. It must be from turkey meat because it says “Wellness” on the bag, right? That and the fact that they put blueberries and kale in their food. But I thought too much vegetables and fruits gave dogs digestive problems … let me check the web … wow, I thought right, they do! But I’m sure it’s just the right amount in Wellness Core Reduced Fat because it says “Wellness” right on the bag.
    In the end, I actually don’t think Wellness is a bad product, just like the Royal Canin isn’t a bad product. There is just a lot of bad information. Dogs and cats are living longer than they ever have in the history of the world. One reason is because the pet food is better than it has ever been. The pet food companies want your pet to live a long happy life. They sell more product if they have happy pets and customers.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Bob… Please see my response to your comment here I posted on the Purina Veterinary Diets HA thread.

  • Jonathan

    Bob. You compare the above food to Wellness Core reduced fat and explain to me how Royal Canin is magicaly “better” than it’s listed ingredients?

    Wellness Core Reduced Fat

    Deboned Turkey, Turkey Meal, Chicken Meal, Potatoes, Dried Ground Potatoes, Pea Fiber, Whitefish Meal, Tomato Pomace, Natural Chicken Flavor, Chicken Liver, Salmon Oil, Flaxseed, Carrots, Sweet Potatoes, Kale, Broccoli, Spinach, Parsley, Apples, Blueberries, Vitamins, Minerals, Choline Chloride, Chicory Root Extract, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Lactobacillus plantarum, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Mixed Tocopherols, Rosemary Extract.

    Guaranteed Analysis
    Crude Protein min. 33%
    Crude Fat min. 9%
    Crude Fat max. 10%
    Crude Fiber max. 8.5%
    Moisture max. 10%
    Calcium max. 1.9%
    Phosphorus max. 1.3%
    Vitamin E min. 500 IU/kg
    Omega 6 Fatty Acids* min. 2.2%
    Omega 3 Fatty Acids* min. 0.50%
    Glucosamin Hydrochloride* min. 250 mg/kg
    Chondroitin Sulfate* min. 200 mg/kg
    Beta-carotene min. 5 mg/kg
    Total Micro-organisms* min. 80,000,000 CFU/lb

    350 kcal/cup

  • Bob K

    Bob – Who was the guest lecturer for pet nutrition seminar at vet school? ? The big dog food companies? Again this food is overpriced for the ingredients you get. Few Vets I know of are well versed in nutrition unless they have a specific interest in it and do research on their own.

  • Bob

    Michelle and Vivian,

    Stick with your veterinarians recommendations. They went to school for this and are a much better resource than this website (no offense).

    Contrary to what Mike, teh expert says, cutting back on the amount doesn’t work. Try cutting out some of your dog’s daily intake and let me know how that goes. Your dog will feel as though he’s starving, which will lead to him getting into the trash, you tripping over him and just an al around bad situation. Cutting back on calories is the old method of weight loss. New research shows feeding a diet high in protein, low in calories and moderate fiber is the best choice. Target about a 2-4% weight loss per week. Make sure you account for treats as well.

  • Vivian McGinley

    Thanks Mike- Yes.. this was recommended solely for weight reduction. My head is somewhat spinning from all the information here…But I will keep studying and try to find the right choice. I really want to get Spencer’s coat back to that glossy black that it was !! Thanks again !

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Vivian… Too much of anything (even common table salt) can be unhealthy. And fiber is no exception. High fiber supplementation can combine with minerals and prevent them from being properly absorbed by the animal. However, the fiber content of foods like the ones you’ve been considering are probably not excessive enough to be a source for legitimate worry.

    In any case, before you consider substitutions for your vet’s recommendations, you should be sure you know why a particular food was suggested in the first place. If it was only for weight loss, I’d suggest you feed a quality 3, 4 or 5-star dog food and simply feed less than the recommended amount. It’s all about limiting calories and carbs. Hope this helps.

  • Vivian McGinley

    I have a 2 yr old border collie who also was put on this food by our vet. However, he has only lost 2 pds in 8-9 weeks and we walk 2X a day for about 30 minutes. His black/white coat seems less shiny than when he was on Nutro Holistic, and now that I have been reading this website I am very concerned about feeding him this food… and it is very expensive ! I noticed Kirkland Heathy Weight dry was rated higher ( also has a higher than average fiber content) and was A LOT less expensive.. My question is this: Can too much Fiber also be a harmful thing ? His poohs are nice and firm, but his coat lacks luster like it used to have. Suggestions ? I am just blown away by all the information on your website. Thank you…I will keep studying and reading !

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Michelle… Steroids can cause weight gain and a redistribution of body fat in both humans and dogs. Unfortunately, since I’m not a veterinarian, I cannot provide specific health advice or product recommendations. Please see our FAQ page and our reviews for more information. Or check back for a possible response from one of our other readers.

  • Michelle O.

    Hi,

    My 4 year old minpin has gotten to be overweight after being put through several rounds of steroids. She has multiple skin issues due to horrible allergies. She is on thyroid medication and atopica as an alternative to the prednisone she was taking.

    Anyway, she has become overweight and the vet recommends this food. She has eaten one bag with no issues, but now the vet recommends I change to Prescription Diet R/D canine food. Both of these foods are rated as 2 stars and I feel like I’m spending ridiculous amount of money on the prescription foods and not getting the quality of food for that price. My dog has lost about a pound while eating the Royal Canin calorie control, however can you recommend a different, higher-quality dry dog food that is still intended for weight loss?

    Please help and thank you in advance!!